The Best $100 Hand Grinder? 1ZPRESSO Q2 Hand Grinder (Heptagonal) 

@@sebaba001 not sure why that is. It works for me. I’ve used a genius link to shorten it so it fits nicely - but that shouldnt cause any issues.

Same error here, i dont know if is a geolocation problem. Great grinder tip, man. Cheers from Brazil.

Q2...yayy or nayy for espresso ?

@@superpadro It should be fixed now.

@@ishantsingh3366 Nayy. Really budget and for espresso go for Kingrinder K3. Q2 Is good but for espresso not good.

I went from the slim+ to Timemore C2 and then to the Q2. Very notable differences between them all, with the Q2 being by far the most uniform and pleasant tasting of the 3. I also later got the Kingrinder K6. In my opinion, the K6 has a little bit more clarity, but the Q2 wins in the categories of sweetness, texture and portability. While the K6 has much finer adjustments and faster grinding, with higher dosing per hopper. All that said... the Q2 is a surprisingly capable grinder!

Glad to hear it

yes :D

Thanks for watching!

Why did u choose jx pro instead of jmax?

Thanks for watching daniel!

Ideal!

feel the same, it is small and comfortable in your hand

And my jx pro fit perfectly in the main chamber of the aeropress (although it’s only useful when dosing into it), maybe 1Zpresso grinders are built around aeropress.

Yeah, but it doesn't exactly help since you still have to stash the top bit somehow .

You bet!

You'll love the JX. I've had mine for about three months and its been incredible, a game changer for me.

Enjoy! Thanks for watching James

Thanks for watching friend!

Where did you get the e pro

Can you tell us more about your experience with the Epro? I've looked at it and it seems to be a very capable grinder.

Heptacore is the best. My Q2 grinds for espresso at 17 to 22 clicks and works great. Fits inside Aeropress too for travel.

It's a movement. And are you talking about the one in the bottom left corner? ha

@@KyleRowsell yeap that's the one. It's the black crank isn't it?

Glad to help! Thanks for watching.

Always! Thanks for watching!

My pleasure. All the best!

Glad you enjoyed it!

Thanks!

Thanks for watching Sarah!

It's very easy to hold. I have small hands. No problems gripping the Q2.

do you have to readjust the JX-pro grind after every use? or to be more accurate so you have to clean after every use?

You’re amazing mike! Thanks for watching

Thanks for this detailed response!

Thanks for your support! One more interesting point for you -- the Nitro Blade burr surface is highly inert, meaning it won't take on the flavour of stale coffee, meaning you can also afford to be lazy once in a while and just purge a couple of beans instead of disassembling and brushing everything clean 😇😜. We love Nitro Blade steel!

C40 simple yet effective design is something I praise to Comandante. But your story with the KPlus sounds like you're not that kind of person that knows how to deal with fine mechanisms, and I'm not gonna judge. I just can't. KPlus is the flagship grinder from 1Z and I've been using and loving it (also own an absolutely gorgeous C40 MK4*) and see no problem with its adjustmen mechanism. As long as you know how to clean your grinder and you do so on a regular basis there's no way you can get issues with it. 1Z is very clear when claim that you can calibrate the grinder after each cleaning/disassembly "only if you want to" cuz if you're lazy or just don't wanna mess with that you can just assemble everything back and count your clicks, like you do on the C40 and that's it! Did you know this? C40 doesn't come with numbers or reference, Comandante engineers say this isn't even necessary and yah, they got a point. So just find your zero and count back from there, simple and effective, right? But 1Z goes the extra mile in this regard and offers a better experience, at least from my experience, it does my life easier cuz I don't have to remember at which setting I was the last time. I can see it directly and that's pure gold for me. On the Kplus the external burr is removable so cleaning it is piece of cake. Yeah, less parts to deal with on the C40 is a big plus but 1Z is easier to keep clean. Both are great, both are top notch. Make your choice based on what you like and what makes your coffee life easier. I own and love these grinders but for me the Kplus does a bit better overall. *Nitroblade is awesome

Thanks!

Thanks for watching!

Very cool. Thanks for sharing!

@@KyleRowsell It's kinda funny that people (like you) are chasing the hard-to-get unicorn grinders like this one. Maybe it's more fun to use if it took more effort to get one (look at all the waiting list grinders out there). ;-)

So the new model isn't coming anytime soon then? edit: I am currently considering whether to get the Q2 or upgrading to the JX-Pro or J-max, as they look nicer/seem better.

@@Shifterfire those are much faster grinders, also a good choice

@@danymeeuwissen5973 I just can't seem to decide if it's really worth the extra cost :/

They truly are!

Thanks!

Yeah Asia is great. Mine cost $71 USD on Lazada. Currently $120 in USA.

It’s too good not to!

Thanks for watching Jake!

Bought mine $71 on 5.5 sale. Lazada is good for these things 2x price in America!

6.6 Lazada or Shopee???

Check to make sure its the 7-core. The 5-core is widely available and much easier to find

@@abelburnem4402 yes 7 core 38mm. I’m really not in the market for a grinder as I have a Niche and am very satisfied.

I am from th, Q2 in th for 5core the price is 90usd 7 core for 110usd

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Thanks for watching

Well said!

agree

I will!

Enjoy!

This grinder would be great

It is! At least this model is good at it!

@@KyleRowsell I think the downfall is the lack of adjustments. You can probably get something fine enough for espresso at under 1 rotation and maybe from the number 7. So that's 9 possible settings? The one weird but makes sense thing, is it's actually easier to grind than on my J-Max, moving those bigger burrs isn't all that easy. It could be my model which uhh wasn't QCd properly...it arrived with the adjustment nuts loose in the case and the burr was stuck to the outer burrs. I'm pretty happy with it but I'm definitely getting an electric grinder for espresso. In hindsight I'd probably go K-Pro, the magnetic catch cup is something I thought was great but it's too often an annoyance.

You’re Amazing!

the burrs are more aggressive (feeding more coffee beans into the burrs at a time) and way larger, both making it require more force to grind the coffee (think how a larger motor is needed for larger burrs in an electric grinder)

JX-pro isn't a cheap grinder. Performance and quality are up there with the C40 (yeah, I own both) The bigger and more aggressive burrs from the JX-pro are fast and precise. Way faster than those of the C40 and regarding the crank force: yah, sometimes it demands serious power but keep in mind you're compromising ease of movement by speed Quality is up there, no doubt and can't tell the C40 is superior cuz it's not

@@manuelpenaruiz3694 true true. I guess when I was looking it was ~50% the price of a Comandante. So not cheap in absolute terms, but comparatively speaking. Maybe it's fair to say the 1ZPRESSO grinders are the cheapest of the good quality, espresso-capable bracket. However the difficulty of grinding really took me by surprise, and I would hesitate to recommend it to someone unless I knew they were really capable and willing to exert the effort.

@@victorpoiesz9265 There's a difference between the J series and K series. The burrs of the K series have 7 edges while J series has 6, so more room for beans in the J series (faster grind but more effort) Comandante uses a 39mm burr with 7 edges and the geometry of the burrs was designed so that it can grind gentler, bit slower but with certain particle distribution and particle shape K series is as good as the C40 in the cup IMHO Think it's not a matter of quality but preference. C40 has earned a reputation and using it feels special

They’re near identical

@@KyleRowsell Good to know! Thanks for replying!

@@gld3gld3 always!

You do. I don’t. I did for this video by using it for weeks. Just use the grinder and enjoy it. It’ll season with time

We'd like to add that Nitro Blade burrs don't need seasoning (nor do they change performance with time) 😇. Seasoning is something relevant for softer steels or burr coatings. (Question is, where does that material go ☕️😳).

@@ComandanteGrinder it goes in the filter

@@lampadashorde5989 At that particle size, we don't think so. And those using metal filters or brewing espresso can be sure it's in the cup 😳.

JX is great. Just stick with it

glad to hear it!

I do. The kplus is a 48mm burr and the size changes it’s overall profile. While those are similar, this one is near identical.

Love this! And absolutely!

@@KyleRowsell Thank you :). This will be his gift celebrating annual longevity. Lol.

Fair points. I do believe without a company like Comandante who really started this revolution in premium hand grinders - we would not see grinders like the Q2 or even Kplus. At least they wouldn't be what they are. Just my personal take.

@@KyleRowsell Absolutely! Commandante definitely should take credit for pushing hand grinders to the levels of performance we have today, at a much higher standard than before, and that could compete with great electric grinders. I just wish that they could continue to push that envelope with new products on both ends of the price spectrum in the way that 1Zpresso is really doing. But like I said, a part of that is probably to do with the costs of doing business in Germany, as opposed to Taiwan and China.

Absolutely! The question is: can Comandante change the game again once everyone else catches up?

@@benbauer7866 I’m optimistic. Comandante is a leader in the space.

I agree, Comandante wouldn't just only spend little bits of R&D just for minor changes like from MK3 to MK4. They are probably waiting for some chances to release a new amazing grinder that is different to the C40.

Likely not

.. thanks 🥲

I’ll look into it!

Similar!

I think the workflow is superior but I like the results from my C40

Well that’s like asking motorcycle or convertible? They’re very different beasts. But I love them both. And both produce great cups