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Boob Armor: 4 Things You Need to Know 

Jill Bearup
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Designing some armour for ladies? Female torso armour specifically? Welcome.
Boob armour, or boob plate, or lady armour. Or fantasy lady armour, come to that: how does it work then? Let's have a look at Wonder Woman, The Mandalorian, Warhammer 40K and various examples of historical armour, as well as costume considerations, which will make designing a look for your female fighters that is practical and looks awesome a breeze.
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TIMESTAMPS!
00:00 So you need some lady armour?
00:37 1. You don't need boob plate
02:23 Alternate options
03:14 2. Divots are a disadvantage
03:56 Muscle cuirasses
04:35 Boob shelf designs
05:11 Cleavage divots
05:39 Wasp waist armor
06:44 Sticky weapons
08:02 Codpieces
08:40 3. Consider mobility (including experiments)
09:35 Two handed weapons and giant swords
10:29 Underlayers and materials used in experiments
11:03 Low guards and power generation in boob plate
11:46 Not painting a 'look, a lady!' target on yourself with your armor
12:17 4. Breathing is important
13:44 Corsets are not like armor, and scifi armor with flex
15:39 Lightning round
#boobplate #femalearmor #armor
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Sailing for Gold - Howard Harper-Barnes
Endless Flirtation - Jerry Lacey
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@JillBearup
@JillBearup 3 года назад
A reminder that we are courteous to each other in the comments section, lest we incur the wrath of the RU-vid naughty words blacklist. And if you want merch, you can go here! jill-bearup.myspreadshop.com/ Also: YE OLDE TIMESTAMPS, as it used to be that you can't click them in the description on mobile (don't know if that's still true, but here we are): 00:37 1. You don't need boob plate 02:23 Alternate options 03:14 2. Divots are a disadvantage 03:56 Muscle cuirasses 04:35 Boob shelf designs 05:11 Cleavage divots 05:39 Wasp waist armor 06:44 Sticky weapons 08:02 Codpieces 08:40 3. Consider mobility (including experiments) 09:35 Two handed weapons and giant swords 10:29 Underlayers and materials used in experiments 11:03 Low guards and power generation in boob plate 11:46 Not painting a 'look, a lady!' target on yourself with your armor 12:17 4. Breathing is important 13:44 Corsets are not like armor, and scifi armor with flex 15:39 Lightning round
@Andrew-pr9xv
@Andrew-pr9xv 3 года назад
Courteous in the comments? Oh bless your heart Jill, you sweet summer child. This is the Internet.
@mayathomas8934
@mayathomas8934 3 года назад
By the way, the timestamps currently aren’t showing up in the normal way I believe? Off the top of my head (might be wrong) I think when the video’s over 10 minutes long the time format has to say like “09:35” instead of “9:35”
@JillBearup
@JillBearup 3 года назад
@@mayathomas8934 Ah, helpful, thank you 🙂
@Gauldame
@Gauldame 3 года назад
Are the boob cups like... literal cereal bowls duct taped on? I just picture you walking in to the kitchen and just saying "now is your time". While looking at them.
@khajiitimanus7432
@khajiitimanus7432 3 года назад
In mobile version, having timestamps in the actual video description now may give the video separate sections/chapters. There will appear a subtitle alongside the video time bar, with the name of the timestamp. Pressing on the subtitle may open up a timestamp list for mobile users to select from. However, I do not know how this newer function works. At the least, I know it did not work for this singular video on my device. I don't know anything else on the matter, though the timestamps themselves do work properly from the description. :p Here is a working example of the phenomenon for mobile device viewing, shown in this music video listing the 3 main tracks from Lord of the Rings to have the Isengard motif (at the least, it works on my end): ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-KXVtpOHQqvY.html
@bansarivora7448
@bansarivora7448 3 года назад
Jill: "cover her vitals!" Anime studios: this sentence is wordy, and hard to read.
@trolldrool
@trolldrool 3 года назад
Not at all. In fact anime studios would agree wholeheartedly. They just have a unorthodox interpretation of what counts as vital parts.
@BologneyT
@BologneyT 3 года назад
@@trolldrool LOL first I wanted to thumbs your comment down, THEN I wanted to thumbs it UP! XD hehe
@sarasorensen2650
@sarasorensen2650 3 года назад
Haha tldr
@Mr.Ekshin
@Mr.Ekshin 3 года назад
Lets face it... most women choosing armor would forget ALL of these practical considerations, and choose whatever was most sexy and stylish.
@tungstenwhizard4361
@tungstenwhizard4361 3 года назад
@@Mr.Ekshin Okay, wait a minute. Who's "most women"? Isn't it the artist who decides what they wear?
@anne.liese_
@anne.liese_ 3 года назад
me not knowing anything about armour or wanting to make armour: yes i will watch this it is very important.
@onedaysai0
@onedaysai0 3 года назад
Saaame
@cjlipsitz595
@cjlipsitz595 3 года назад
Me too
@contingenc3548
@contingenc3548 3 года назад
Same
@oatlord
@oatlord 3 года назад
It'll be good for arguing on the internet.
@fracturedwolf5843
@fracturedwolf5843 3 года назад
indeed i came here as it looked intriguing
@orionbarnes1733
@orionbarnes1733 Год назад
As somebody who is doing character design of a female soldier, thank you for this. You have no idea how much work it was to get reference material that actually portrayed a normal human body and not a stripper covered in a thin layer of metal
@Mortablunt
@Mortablunt Год назад
I ended up doing multiple designs for my futuristic uniforns. The enlisted working uniform is what she would wear every single day and it’s a unflatteringly square cut tunic and pants. Nobody no matter how gorgeous is going to look good in this. Enlisted combat fatigues are cut some more slimly for mobility and partially for intimidation. The armor top suite is high waisted for articulation and wears unisex. The bottom suite differs between the genders. The male lower armor suite has more plates that are larger because the male form is more straight up and down. The female lower suite has more plates that are smaller due to the extra curvature of the female form. They still look mostly similar and offer roughly the same protection. The big difference is in parade and formal uniforms. The male parade unicorn is model off of the civilian suits and features hi Brigid 90° shoulders and just enough neckline to reveal a bit of undershirt that showcase the muscles of a strong soldier. The trousers are plate cut and close to form fitting. All sleeves are full length. The female uniform has more downward singlets including a neckline that reveals the undershirt between the breasts and a skirt that comes out to the knees. The sleeves are three quarter length and white stockings cover the legs.
@AManNamedHawk
@AManNamedHawk Год назад
@@Mortablunt That’s fairly realistic too. The combat and formal worlds have strong lines between them and an outfit designed to be stylish could display sex within reason, but a utility or combat fatigue issued en masse should be unisex. It costs the military less to issue and fits the context of the uniform and function of the grunt. My inspiration for this is the USMC, where there is no true “female” uniform minus pregnancy blouses, and formal wear.
@me5969
@me5969 Год назад
It all depends on what/where/when you're doing it. I'm make but I'm an ex British soldier but my sister was also a medic so I have experience of things to a relative degree. We have a saying which is "allyness saves lives". Basically ally is looking cool in your kit. We actually all got a massive bollocking because we kept going on patrol with no tops on and stuff and then getting sun stroke. What I'm saying is if a soldier can get away with looking ally then they will. It sounds ridiculous but it really is style over function sometimes. Para reg don't even go full Gary (gortex) so we'd literally rather get piss wet through than be caught wearing waterproof pants. You can see when they got rid if their tattoo policy that most of the UK forces ended up with full sleave and hand and finger tattoos nearly overnight. The women is arguably more interesting to you though. The women did wear lads kit but they get issues specifically women plate carriers and things now because their bodies are different. So women do actually have their own fitted armour now as it's actually more dangerous to be in men's. They also allowed varying hair styles. Back when me and my sister were in they were only allowed a bun in a certain way but now they can have different styles and I can't tell you how happy they were that they can have ponytails and things now. I'm not sure about the makeup situation but they definitely do want makeup freedom. It sounds daft but people want to look good, even in a scrap. It's why they had to allow tattoos and the hands and neck (not throat or face) and why everyone apart from the Army who are stuck in 1917 allow beards. (although that's not relevant to the women.. Well maybe the RAF girls) I also go hiking a lot and I can say most women wear leggings and this isn't exclusive to hiking. They do in the gym and I know a lot of women would prefer to wear leggings in the military. I actually do think if there wasn't a uniform standard (so SAS, SBS, SRR) women would actually choose to wear combat leggings. Basically on the future or a mercenary or modern SF would probably have a ponytail, a small plate carrier and some sort out out door leggings (think what hikers and mountain climbers wear) and light makeup. If not given the choice then they'll just get what's issued and that can vary not only from nation to nation but from force to force
@N17C1
@N17C1 Год назад
The US Army spent a lot of time and money testing modern ballistic armour designed for women. The final result was that a standard 'male' plate worked better than any other design tested.
@WisdomAndWar133
@WisdomAndWar133 3 месяца назад
Wow. Respectable, fortunate, and unsurprising all in one. Way to go, U.S. Army!
@sarahcicle8592
@sarahcicle8592 3 месяца назад
I’m glad the did test it instead of assuming either way though
@KatBlaque
@KatBlaque 3 года назад
Lol I should have watched this video when I was designing DeviantArt OCs in high school lol
@roniyarose9470
@roniyarose9470 3 года назад
I feel like we watch all the same videos. I always see you in comment sections.
@BMF396
@BMF396 3 года назад
what is this, a crossover episode?
@Shythalia
@Shythalia 3 года назад
This video was made last week.
@Ziton98
@Ziton98 3 года назад
When designing Male armor you should add Schlong Armor to be historically accurate. Henry the VIII would approve.
@BologneyT
@BologneyT 3 года назад
LOL
@tiffanyhendricks1860
@tiffanyhendricks1860 3 года назад
Imagine a male character using overly exaggerated female armour (that covers the head and face) in order to attract attention and then fight those who would believe they’re fighting a woman. I’m thinking about writing something like this!
@ontariochurchstories7276
@ontariochurchstories7276 3 года назад
Cool idea.
@SINGEKOO
@SINGEKOO 3 года назад
yes! subvert expectations!
@thisberichard
@thisberichard 3 года назад
Brilliant.
@cade5792
@cade5792 3 года назад
Having fought both men and women in armored combat, I can't think of why this would give the exaggerated female armor wearer any distinct advantage. They're a combatant, and if they have a weapon they're a threat regardless of their perceived skill or physical capability. An armed opponent is always a threat, doubly so for an armed and armored opponent. I don't mean to discourage fantasy writing, but instead I wanted offer a bit of perspective.
@pineappleink9232
@pineappleink9232 3 года назад
thats so smart!
@demiserofd
@demiserofd Год назад
I always liked the Alice armor. Really great example of something that's both protective AND feminine without really sacrificing either.
@Black_Konoha
@Black_Konoha Год назад
Alice Zuberg?
@twinpeaks294
@twinpeaks294 Год назад
​@@Black_Konoha Maybe it's Alice in Wonderland, the Tim Burton version
@askmitch
@askmitch Год назад
Congratulations on making this video and taking the subject matter 100% seriously. First time I've heard this from a female swordfighter perspective. Insightful.
@armartin0003
@armartin0003 3 года назад
I love how Boudica herself was so irritated by modern female warrior stereotypes that she decided to reincarnate and give us a proper education on the matter.
@Cricket-zp6wi
@Cricket-zp6wi 3 года назад
I wish more armorers would consider this. Modern/Kevlar armor as well as the old-fashioned stuff.
@armartin0003
@armartin0003 3 года назад
@@Cricket-zp6wi Last I heard, the military in the US was investing in making Kevlar options that better fit our female troops. The reason I know about it is b/c Fox news was saying that it was part of the ongoing push towards femininity in the US military (with the strong implication that is a VERY bad thing).
@bodyshoplaboratories501
@bodyshoplaboratories501 3 года назад
Boudicca? Her armor was NSFW!
@JaylukKhan
@JaylukKhan 3 года назад
Boudica was from a society where men ran into battle with their dicks out.
@catwitdabigdog2076
@catwitdabigdog2076 3 года назад
Lmao
@natmorse-noland9133
@natmorse-noland9133 3 года назад
"Knocking a knight off their horse is generally a win condition for peasants." - That is, incidentally, exactly how a paladin character I made in Pathfinder died at like level 2.
@kateiannacone2698
@kateiannacone2698 3 года назад
Yeeeeah, that'll do it... lol
@burntcoppery
@burntcoppery 3 года назад
Peasants: 'yay now is ransom time! ooo, how much is your armour worth to you, noble person?'
@veronikaczr1105
@veronikaczr1105 3 года назад
When knocked off your horse: A. You can fall so badly that you can die at the spot B. You can be killed by those peasants before you can "recover" from the fall C. When in a big battle, there are many other riders behind you, so if you fall, you will definitely be killed by other horses Remember, you don't want to fall, so don't give those peasants more chance to knock you off. Don't wear stupid breastplate
@makhond2498
@makhond2498 3 года назад
water, a tabletop silent assassin, try crossing it in heavy armor with a spiteful DM
@pandapounce
@pandapounce 2 года назад
F
@tR-jo2wb
@tR-jo2wb Год назад
I really appreciate you going the extra mile and demonstrating the effects of the armor and how it may hamper certain aspects. Thank you for your hard work, this is great for concept art information.
@donbalduf572
@donbalduf572 Год назад
I very much enjoyed this. I did a lot of theater as a young person, so I know you are spot on about fit, weight distribution and comfort for the wearer. I never had to wear armor or wield weapons, but most of what you describe applies to other costumes as well. I’m also not a woman, but I recall very clearly the issues my female cast mates had to work out. Thanks for a good presentation and for bringing back great memories!
@mikebliss3153
@mikebliss3153 3 года назад
"I feel better having got all that off my chest." You are so pleased with yourself and I couldn't possibly approve of that more.
@alisonhillary
@alisonhillary 3 года назад
I loved the puns too. And those moments when she lets herself give out a tiny half-laugh at her own joke? Perfect.
@FlyingBunnycorn
@FlyingBunnycorn 3 года назад
As a large-busted woman who has had to wear modern combat armor, I am always pleased to watch you go absolutely ham on these game designers that have clearly never spoken to a woman in armor. There was literally no difference between my armor and the stuff the guys wore, aside from the size I needed.
@-Devy-
@-Devy- 3 года назад
I get what you're saying but as mentioned, a game designer rarely has any need to take real world limitations into consideration because unless they're specifically aiming for realism it just doesn't matter.
@miramari732
@miramari732 3 года назад
I wonder sometimes if they know that boobs are squishy ^^. Maybe they think that they are made of plastic like on barbie doll XD. But yeah, I'm large busted lady too and as historical reenactor I wore armor. And once gambeson is on - there's no boobs at sight. Everybody just becomes rectangle ;-)
@zachanikwano
@zachanikwano 3 года назад
I mean, they are designing for a fictional world. I don’t like the “sexy” armor personally but why would they have to have realistic armor in their space fantasy with magic? I mean not to mention other games in which the armor is “invisible” just so the main cast can have their chiseled faces and cool outfits always visible. If you’re going realistic design, then yes. Actually be realistic. If not, do whatever as long as it isn’t problematic.
@terron7840
@terron7840 3 года назад
They make boob armour because ita visually appealing to men the same way qomen enjoy tall muscular men. If Christian Grey was a dwarf or an obese guy, no woman would have ever watched the movie.
@RPG_Angie
@RPG_Angie 3 года назад
@@zachanikwano I mean, if a game had unrealistic hand mechanics where the thumb bends whichever way, you'd always consider it a mistake, right? No amount of "but it's just fantasy, it doesn't have to be realistic" argumentation would change your mind on that. It would stand out like an eye sore and break your immersion. It's kind of like that.
@michelhv
@michelhv Год назад
I just clicked because it said “armor” in the title. Seriously, very intelligent, and you got us all watching a fine explanation that more people should heed.
@tifat5105
@tifat5105 Год назад
Kitties are appreciated! Just found your channel and will be watching more! Love the level of research and attention to detail.
@Epicurus341
@Epicurus341 3 года назад
Do the neighbours ever ask why you're in the garden dressed in cardboard and Tupperware, whilst thrusting a light-sabre about? Or do they just act like they haven't noticed anything unusual and ask to borrow some teabags? 😊 Also, "kitties"!!
@Kremit_the_Forg
@Kremit_the_Forg 3 года назад
"Martha! Martha come quick! The strange women from next door finally snapped! She's wearing Tupperware! Tupperware!! And she is talking to herself!" "Oh George, don't be sil- My god, George! Poor thing... It is that virus, I tell you! Everyone is going nuts!"
@dazzlemasseur
@dazzlemasseur 3 года назад
I would never limit what I do in my backyard for fear of "what do the neighbors think"
@conradlorgar5508
@conradlorgar5508 3 года назад
@@dazzlemasseur that's what I told the police when I decide to pick up the paper nude but some people just want to limit my freedoms, I tell you
@hotdognl70
@hotdognl70 2 года назад
@@dazzlemasseur You are right! What they report is more dangerous than what they think. Edit: and kitties!!! don't forget the kitties.
@Halberddent
@Halberddent 3 года назад
I can just imagine some fantasy duke slamming his fist on his desk and saying "I paid three hundred gold for that armor, by god I'm going to make it HOT!"
@christinajackson2662
@christinajackson2662 3 года назад
Please tell me it’s for him and he’s referring to the scanty chain mail bikini version, lol
@MiciusPorcius
@MiciusPorcius 3 года назад
@@christinajackson2662 every Duke has his kink I guess🤷‍♂️ The serfs get a good laugh out of it I bet. “Psst I heard the Duke wears lady clothes when he’s alone, te he.”
@kramermariav
@kramermariav 3 года назад
Armor pour homme
@Bluecho4
@Bluecho4 3 года назад
@@MiciusPorcius It makes their lifelong exploitation slightly easier to bear.
@melonman6522
@melonman6522 3 года назад
@@christinajackson2662 Not too far off from being true, can't remember which king, but there was one who specifically had armor with male genitalia on it for purely aesthetic reasons.
@freekrill
@freekrill Год назад
You deserve so many more subscribers for the level of interaction you have and the quality of content you produce. It’s valuable and is heavily under-compensated
@johnmcconnell7052
@johnmcconnell7052 Год назад
A video I always come back to when someone says why am I designing armor a certain way in my games. Glad you put up proper points.
@GeneSv
@GeneSv 3 года назад
I always imagine girls trying to get their boobs in their armour, leaning forwards trying to get those ridicules sized boobs in those metal moulds and having it go wrong because the boobs want to lay flat on her chest rather than pushed up by the metal. I just crack up every time I see these kinds of armour.
@Ieatpaste23
@Ieatpaste23 3 года назад
Real armor isn't skin tight. Watch shadiversity on this subject.
@GeneSv
@GeneSv 3 года назад
@@Ieatpaste23 I know? I'm honestly confused as to why you would think I was talking about realistic armour.
@Caitydid561
@Caitydid561 3 года назад
Just like how you're told to put on a bra to make sure it fits right! Except a lot less flexible than a bra.
@DeathnoteBB
@DeathnoteBB 3 года назад
@@Ieatpaste23 Shadiversitu thinks the issue we have with boob armor is metal thickness
@BlatentlyFakeName
@BlatentlyFakeName 3 года назад
The armour in fiction is often form fitting to look cool. In games they just wrap it around the character and make it the same shape as the naked character, because it's easier. Real historical armour is designed to have gaps under it so it can deform and not crush the wearer so you can make it all a similar shape on the outside. Not very flexible though.
@IsaacKuo
@IsaacKuo 3 года назад
Hmm ... cat armor. Pretty easy to make cat armor, I think. Just take some sturdy rectangles of steel sheet and cover them with cardboard so it looks like a cardboard box. 3D print some kitty armor and put it in the box, so the box looks like a shipping box. Voila! Cat armor! Simply open the box and remove the 3D printed kitty armor and attempt to put it on your cat. Your cat will, of course, ignore the 3D printed kitty armor and instead sit in the box. Okay, this box does not allow for cat movement, but the cat doesn't want to move so that's okay.
@ltlbuddha
@ltlbuddha 3 года назад
If you want a cat to use the armour, you have to make it for someone else.
@autumncosandaffect9735
@autumncosandaffect9735 3 года назад
@@ltlbuddha and make it out of something that you don't want them near.. Velvet?
@ltlbuddha
@ltlbuddha 3 года назад
@@autumncosandaffect9735 Velvet and velco
@WardNightstone
@WardNightstone 3 года назад
i have seen actual examples of cat and dog armor it's not dissimilar to horse armor
@EternalDensity
@EternalDensity 3 года назад
Kitties!
@maube8007
@maube8007 Год назад
There is so much knowledge so fast, I have to watch this video in segments. For drawing, and making costumes, this is gold. Thank you.
@maruraba1478
@maruraba1478 Год назад
Ezra Scarlet from Fairy Tail actually has decent practical armor for her default armor, she can magically switch to a whole bunch of different armors. Not a lot of extra chest maintaining the ridged look, good waist for mobility, etc.
@justineck5664
@justineck5664 3 года назад
I don't care what the topic is. I love seeing someone with real experience, not just opinions, breaking down common stereotypes in movies. Especially when they use coherent and cogent statements like you do.
@AskMia411
@AskMia411 3 года назад
Isn't it so refreshing???
@Drekromancer
@Drekromancer 2 года назад
Tremendous take. I agree.
@valhatan3907
@valhatan3907 2 года назад
Wait, who you are referring to? I know it's been 1 year, but still 😂
@helpfuldrawing9510
@helpfuldrawing9510 3 года назад
"Yup, she's out there again." "Doing the usual thing?" "...yup."
@elsalene1044
@elsalene1044 3 года назад
DNKJDNKJDNK
@BevvRatBites
@BevvRatBites 3 года назад
Why r u peering over the fence?
@MrSlapdash243
@MrSlapdash243 3 года назад
What is she doing with those yoghurt pots.
@BevvRatBites
@BevvRatBites 3 года назад
@Leon Lopez Maybe if I just wasn't so jealous of how sexy your kink is I'd be able to follow that command.
@apresmidi153
@apresmidi153 Год назад
This is a great video. Nice to see someone go really in-depth on this topic.
@mikumikudice
@mikumikudice Год назад
just found your channel by this video and I'm loving it! you are very kind and have a very sweet talking. it's a pleasure to hear you. gonna try to stick with more of your content
@amymurlowski
@amymurlowski 3 года назад
Your inability to say “get that off my chest” with a straight face is delightful.
@randomguy-tg7ok
@randomguy-tg7ok 3 года назад
So in short, "Don't be dumb and just use regular armour" _unless_ you're designing for a noblewoman who wants to stand out, in which case accentuate it a bit, while remembering that Anime Logic does not apply to real life.
@ilikecookies230
@ilikecookies230 3 года назад
But what if anime though?
@randomguy-tg7ok
@randomguy-tg7ok 3 года назад
If it's anime, why would they be watching this video?
@WookieWarriorz
@WookieWarriorz 3 года назад
or you do whatever the fuck you want when creating art there are no rules. the boobs in the armour looks dope doesnt matter if its not realistic to me
@keltzy
@keltzy 3 года назад
@@WookieWarriorz I mean, personally I think super boob-centric armor looks really silly, but that's just me. I do think the point is, though, if you want to avoid breaking suspension of disbelief (and have a stronger overall character design, if that matters to you) then make sure the armor you put your character in is practical for her situation. But if you're just drawing a picture for the sake of looking cool/sexy/whatevs, then you do you.
@raptorreagan2773
@raptorreagan2773 3 года назад
I think a woman with extra large breasts would need an adjustment in the chest area, as Shadiversity pointed in his last video. I don’t a regular chest plate is practical enough for women with DD+ bra sizes.
@greatemeraldgoat5029
@greatemeraldgoat5029 Год назад
Quality content! Didn't know I needed this but it was a wonderful watch.
@maddiwrites1409
@maddiwrites1409 Год назад
I do a lot of character design, for my own characters and my friend's characters. I also enjoy redesigning movie/book character armor. For my own characters, I tend to go off of characters like Bo-Katan Kryze, Black Widow, or Sabine Wren, armor-wise. One of my first really good characters has some armor that I based a lot off of what I saw in this video last year. One year later, I've come back to this video to find that I followed these instructions to heart, especially with my other newer characters.
@ggsj
@ggsj 3 года назад
As an amateur worldbuilder and writer who is creating something where warrior women are really important, I just loved to see this coming from a woman. Thank you very much. You just got another fan and subscriber. PS: I'm also a design student, and you point out several things that are really relevant. Things that can completely ruin a project if one ignores them. Thank you for this, too.
@jarlnils435
@jarlnils435 3 года назад
You should also not forget why mostly men fought. A young woman who dies on the Battlefield is a greater loss than a man. She can't give birth to some future children and can't protects or feed her maby already born children. Women were mostly there to give birth and to protect the children. Because children are the future for every tribe or state. Men are stronger build and were there to protect the women and children and do all the dangerous tasks like building, hunting, fighting. Also, even if it sounds cruel or something, how many children can a man have in his live? Hundreds or thousands. How many can a women have? At max 30. If you look at births there are more males than females. At the age of 30 it is the opposit. In our nature woman would chose a man who is able to protect her and her future children. They chose powerfull men. Men who can offer protection or a good live. Men on the other hand try to get the attantion of women with exactly that. And how do you show that you are a man who can offer protection and a good live? You do dangerous stuff! Like hunting and war. And that's why at the age of 30 from the original larger group of men are less alive than women. To be a woman in the middle ages was hard and such, yes. But they lived longer than their husbands or even sons most of the time.
@ggsj
@ggsj 3 года назад
@@jarlnils435 Some of your pointers may raise some people's eyebrows, but they're valid in more than one way, even if it's a part of reality I don't really like, since I'm kind of an advocate for equity. I've been exploring this kind of subject from another angle, with a species that were like this in the past (overly agressive males, always fighting to build harems of passive females, who were tasked with reproductive and domestic duties, etc.), but was suddenly forced into a matriarchal social structure because there are too few males now and they are forbidden to do dangerous tasks, taking roles as breeders, craftsmen (which both genders can be) and insctructors for the young ones. But the problem is, I still didn't manage to "fine tune" it to a level I'm satisfied with. It seems I'll have to do more research and explore these facts you kindly reminded me of. Thank you.
@jarlnils435
@jarlnils435 3 года назад
@@ggsj maby you should watch some videos from Lindybeige for that. He has a large content about history, fighting, ancient warfare and warfare generally, but also about this. Don't get me wrong for my first comment. I am for equality, but only in terms of law. I'm german and our law says men and women are before the law equal. That is sadly not working. But instead this law more to push into use, our politicans make extra laws for women. That's not equal. That's throwing mony out of the window. But nobody can say men and women are absolutely equal in all things. Than we wouldn't be men and women.
@ggsj
@ggsj 3 года назад
@@jarlnils435 Thanks for the tip, I'll check those videos as soon as I'm able. And I didn't judge you at all. Even if I'm no historian or anything I'm pretty aware that culture back then was like this (and still is in more places and contexts that I'd wish they existed), and I've made a central point as an aspiring artist and thinker to not run from realities I don't really like. Those pointers are that kind of unpleasant truth that we'll do more harm by running from than facing them (did this phrase/wording even makes sense?). And if you think things are ugly in Germany, I'll tell you I'm from Brazil. Trust me, it's waaaaay worse here. To simplify it, grab what you don't like about it in Germany and crank it up to twelve and this will give a hint of how hypocritical things are here... Again, thanks for the tips.
@Peter_Parker361
@Peter_Parker361 3 года назад
@@jarlnils435 I'm also from Germany but I don't get what you mean by "the laws are not working". I hope you're not talking about the alleged "Gender Pay Gap". Because otherwise I totally agree with everything you said.
@sarahscott5305
@sarahscott5305 3 года назад
I'm a little bit distracted by your absolutely gorgeous hair. Jealous? Says who?! I'm not jealous. Why would you even bring that up?!
@zoomane
@zoomane 3 года назад
Same tho, I want that hair
@robertwilliams2520
@robertwilliams2520 3 года назад
I'm a dude and I swear, I'm not jealous either....
@zeash482
@zeash482 3 года назад
@@robertwilliams2520 im a dude and i have hair like that so...
@alishaanimations3058
@alishaanimations3058 3 года назад
Hey! Search up vanilla-healthier hair :D
@sarahscott5305
@sarahscott5305 3 года назад
@@zeash482 Curse you and your luscious locks!
@jonathansteppig4116
@jonathansteppig4116 Год назад
I've been thinking about some of this stuff lately, but you even covered things that I hadn't considered. I appreciate the sober approach you took to the topic.
@robertpowell1464
@robertpowell1464 Год назад
This is very informative and fun. Thank you. Lots of bonus points for bashing heels for combat as well.
@KaiseaWings
@KaiseaWings 3 года назад
To illustrate the mobility issue: Take one of those artist mannequins and try to move the arms across the chest. Yeah.
@o00nemesis00o
@o00nemesis00o 3 года назад
Or take one of those artist mannequins and try to do pretty much anything with it, like bending a leg more than 70°. They suck.
@Verbose_Mode
@Verbose_Mode 3 года назад
Regular plate armor has a dome that is hard to put your arm across your body.
@KaiseaWings
@KaiseaWings 3 года назад
@@o00nemesis00o Won't get an argument from me here but I mean I have one of those figma anime drawing figures with decent proportions and the chest still gets in the way.
@shenai2187
@shenai2187 3 года назад
@@Verbose_Mode Except that the dome is in the middle of the body, whereas the boobs are on the side, getting in the way a lot more/earlier than the dome does. As she demonstrated very well.
@slhpproductions6707
@slhpproductions6707 2 года назад
When I was in the military, (not the American military) I had a specific role that boils down to 'person with a grenade launcher'. We had different vests that were designed to have a lot more pockets on the sides (for said grenades) and it was really difficult to move in because it was so big and cumbersome, it restricted my range of motion when getting on the ground especially because it layered over my hips and crotch. Then I noticed that my other female friend's vests, who had regular guns, cut off right before the belt, which was a lot more comfortable and I realized- I was wearing a male vest designed only for men with a longer torso than me. They just didn't design a female version of the grenade launcher vest. It was really annoying and probably contributed to my back injury so yeah, armor design is super important.
@garethbaus5471
@garethbaus5471 2 года назад
They didn't even have a shorter male vest? Short men are a real thing and it seems like a bad idea to provide equipment that seriously reduces mobility regardless of gender.
@jfarrar19
@jfarrar19 2 года назад
Surprised it didn't come in the standard size: too small
@slhpproductions6707
@slhpproductions6707 2 года назад
@@jfarrar19 oh no hanny it was huge, and I'm not a small person at all, I'm a big butch girl and it was still somehow too big and ill fitted
@robadc
@robadc 2 года назад
I never had the curiosity to look up grenadier kit before. Wow that's a lot of pockets. Must have been popular for carrying nicknacks
@slhpproductions6707
@slhpproductions6707 2 года назад
@@robadc mostly chocolate bars
@achyutrastogi8080
@achyutrastogi8080 Год назад
Thanks for the technical breakdown of armour fits and practicality behind it.
@wdwerker
@wdwerker Год назад
Educational and thoroughly entertaining! A insightful yet humorous look at protecting her lady bits.
@xidarian
@xidarian 3 года назад
Women in the military have been complaining about body armor fit if they have a large bust for years. The US Air Force just started offering body armor tailored for women and large busts were one of the considerations. While it doesn't end up looking like boob armor wearing men's armor is known to be uncomfortable for some women. But in general you are right that women can wear the same body armor.
@GameFreak7744
@GameFreak7744 3 года назад
Good old 'one size doesn't really fit anybody'.
@TheGuindo
@TheGuindo 3 года назад
Yeah the "one shape fits everyone" military practice has a long sour history with busty servicemembers. The standard BDU is not tailored or belted or cinched at the waist in any way, so the everyday uniform turns everyone who wears it into a big shapeless rectangle. My favorite story about this is that one of my mom's army buddies was very busty and a big bust in BDU = an especially fat rectangle, and her sergeant kept telling her to "lose some weight" because of how big it made her look. She finally got fed up with it and went up to him one day off-duty wearing a teeny little tank top that showed off her hourglass figure and asked him "which one do you want me to cut off?" Embarrassed him so badly he never brought it up again, lmfao.
@HIPEOPLE1887
@HIPEOPLE1887 3 года назад
@@TheGuindo if AngryCops is to be believed, one size fits all doesn’t even work for the men at times
@architectofdreams73
@architectofdreams73 3 года назад
@@HIPEOPLE1887 cause that is a statistical truth, but obviously not always. It really should be considered as "one size fits most" as some clothing is labeled as such.
@emberrivers1889
@emberrivers1889 3 года назад
I think she mentions something like that, at 1:50 ish. Idk anything about this^^ just interesting
@BarbarianGod
@BarbarianGod 3 года назад
Regarding the point about breathing, I assume that's why solid metal chest pieces often have a large stomach area, you kinda want to be breathing properly with your stomach/diaphragm if you're running around in heavy armor
@rylie8989
@rylie8989 3 года назад
I think it's more deflection purposes? Like you definitely want breathing space all over, plus in strenuous combat people will be breathing with their chest, so the stomach having more space than the chest is I think just more optimal for getting blows to bounce off
@Komaru.89
@Komaru.89 3 года назад
Breathing is super important. The first time I fought in armor, it was borrowed, and while armor itself gave me room to breath, the arming vest underneath turned out to be too tight, so I had to take it off as soon as my fights were over so I could breathe better.
@insanitysportal6692
@insanitysportal6692 3 года назад
Yes and no. Yes, breathing is good and many breath from the stomach, so some expansion there is a Good Thing, but also: full plate armors were normally only affordable by the nobility and the nobility also tended to be the only ones that ate really well. Thus, the propensity (but not certainty) that nobles would have larger stomachs, thus requiring more accommodation... TL;DR: the only people that could afford fancy armor also tended to be fat. So fancy armor was made for fat people (and I'm using fat as a relative term here, a lot of it was muscle UNDER fat, but that doesn't change the expansive girth. Also: certainly not obese or exceptionally fat by today's standards...more "Dad-Bod"-ish)
@rylie8989
@rylie8989 3 года назад
@@insanitysportal6692 meh plenty of people eat well without getting fat, especially if they exercise a lot as a warrior would. Also there was cheaper plate armor that was accessible to not noble men at arms, scholagladiatoria did a video talking about it at some point
@tsoliot5913
@tsoliot5913 3 года назад
@@seekingabsolution1907 people had big hands in the past too. You can't assume.
@fredscholpp5838
@fredscholpp5838 Год назад
Hey Jill, I loved this! I kept finding myself vigorously nodding to all the points you make. I'm an armourer, and to date I have made 4-5 breast plates for women. two are really silly, one inspired by ancient Greek bronze armour, the other by Ancient Celtic bronze. The two that were serious are based on early 17th century armour but modified to protect female employees at the museum I work in, but to NOT look feminine. On the latter two, I think you'd say I covered all the major issues. The first two... :) well they are pretty. (first time visitor to your channel, but I will view more! )
@agent6567
@agent6567 Год назад
While I don't know much about armor or weaponry in a practical sense, I feel that this is good to know for writing and costume design.
@remixtheidiot5771
@remixtheidiot5771 3 года назад
What I took away from this video: If you are a man, cross dress and wear female armor if you want people to hit you more and your actual female friends less.
@mittfh
@mittfh 3 года назад
Bonus points if it's very lightweight (so it's not going to make you significantly more top heavy), you're not primarily using swords or pikes (so the faux cleavage doesn't get in your way), and the faux cleavage is "generously proportioned" (to draw maximum attention). Heck, with a little imagination, the cavities could be used to store spare batteries or fuel cells for your energy weapon... Of course, you'd need to be relatively short and slim - if you're over 1.8m (6') tall and have lots of musculature, it's going to be rather more difficult to pull off the illusion.
@thallienwhite3279
@thallienwhite3279 3 года назад
Have ever heard the story of the amateur boxer that had a secret obsession with cross dressing. Some street thug tried to rob "her" and got sent to the bone yard! Your comment reminded of that.
@johannageisel5390
@johannageisel5390 3 года назад
Sooo, when you join the Kyoshi Warriors, you should wear their traditional clothing.
@TimoRutanen
@TimoRutanen 3 года назад
Could win you a fight, but all your fighting mates would look at you sideways. Tough call, I'd say.
@thewickedzaku
@thewickedzaku 3 года назад
Oh... I took it as an instructional video for women interested in wearing armor.
@nicobones9608
@nicobones9608 3 года назад
Suddenly I'm having a hilarious idea for a DnD character who is a female knight who's self-conscious about the fact that she's small-chested (as is common for hardcore athletes) and thus wears armor to make her breasts appear far larger. Lol.
@adamcarroll9613
@adamcarroll9613 3 года назад
Depending on the severity of insecurity, it'd be a historically accurate use case, especially if they're a sort who doesn't end up in front line combat much.
@TFalconwing
@TFalconwing 3 года назад
That's Cordelia from Fire Emblem Awakening. I'm not even joking
@MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive
@MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive 3 года назад
That sounds like a gender flipped version of my WoD Ventrue who overcompensated with an grotesquely large codpiece on his armor. I would try to annoy other players by making him brag by reciting his entire aristocratic lineage and make others roll for willpower to tune out or interrupt him otherwise I would read the whole thing.
@trikepilot101
@trikepilot101 3 года назад
David Eddings does something similar in "The Belgariad." A princess wants some armour to make war-like speaches in but the armourer makes armour that actuallly fits her and she asks him to remodel it so the crowds know she is the princess and not some boy. He says "Ok, but not clear out to here!" and she replies "I rely on your good taste."
@ChrisCaramia
@ChrisCaramia 3 года назад
@@trikepilot101 Ce'Nedra. If I remember right, the book cover shows her with chest turrets when the armor actually delivered had a rounded shelf. Sweater Puppies for the algorithm!
@Stevofaves
@Stevofaves Год назад
As a character designer, this video is great! I mean it's great for anyone who's interested, but it's awesome hearing the breakdowns of the actual engineering.
@greystorm9974
@greystorm9974 Год назад
amazing video. And your point with computer characters is really good. Which a lot of studios just "fixes it" with having the actual metal/armor move with the breathing. Like so much animated armor is just fabric.
@georgkrger2155
@georgkrger2155 3 года назад
The costume designer for the mandalorian is a woman. She approved ironhead studios armor for bo katan. Besides beskar is thin armor, it needs to be tight.
@andryuu_2000
@andryuu_2000 3 года назад
Yes, at least Star Wars is not historically inspired, therefore not that realistic
@georgkrger2155
@georgkrger2155 3 года назад
Oh yeah i agree, but my comment was just to make it clear for thoose who complained about it in the mandalorian (:
@georgkrger2155
@georgkrger2155 3 года назад
@Delta 38 yeah exectly
@georgkrger2155
@georgkrger2155 3 года назад
@Delta 38 *exactly
@michael2968
@michael2968 3 года назад
dont let facts get in the way of a feminist rant...
@Drawnonstop_
@Drawnonstop_ 3 года назад
This girl: Breathing is important! My swim coach: that’s a funny joke
@sammarino7357
@sammarino7357 3 года назад
I’m a boy but same just same
@flappysquirrel5132
@flappysquirrel5132 3 года назад
...no, your swim coach would agree. Breathing is important! We just happen to practice controlled breathing... often.
@flappysquirrel5132
@flappysquirrel5132 3 года назад
@Juju Schrader ...so was mine. ;)
@WhiteWolf-lm7gj
@WhiteWolf-lm7gj 2 года назад
Please, it's not like breathing is important to maintaining life or anything
@silviasanchez648
@silviasanchez648 2 года назад
@@WhiteWolf-lm7gj Yeah, breathing is overrated
@-grey
@-grey Год назад
This was the funniest way to educate on a thing I never thought about or noticed. ✌️😂
@chadhiggins8397
@chadhiggins8397 Год назад
Here is a comment so that RU-vid thanks I am more engaged in your. It is not that I am not engaged in your channel, but I don't have that much to say. After all, what criticism could I offer you when you are already so good at this! As far as compliments go I could say that it usually puts a smile on my face to see your enthusiasm for almost anything you talk about. Keep up the good work. 😊
@BrackishBrit
@BrackishBrit 3 года назад
Welp, guess it's time to add a secret order of female paladins to my D&D setting who nobody knows are women because their armour and helmets are designed sensibly. Thanks for the idea, Jill! Edit: Well this kinda blew up! From what writing I've done since yesterday is that they are sworn to silence and have some means of communicating telepathically with their sisters. They are few in number, exceptionally skilled and are effectively religious special forces rather than a regiment or something that could be fielded in a pitched battle. Hope that helps anyone else with a similar thought!
@DeadNotSleeping789
@DeadNotSleeping789 3 года назад
If you don't mind me stealing the idea I may have to do the same
@AskMia411
@AskMia411 3 года назад
YAAAS DO IT!!!! I must request an Eowyn moment at some point though.
@charlesherbig4502
@charlesherbig4502 3 года назад
Well, sensible armor will allow the freedom of movement necessary for your paladins to stomp a puppy to get that last XP for the next level.
@leadpaintchips9461
@leadpaintchips9461 3 года назад
Why secretly women? I'm pretty sure that outside of the battlefield, they'd be caught out. But having an order that doesn't announce that they're female and no one understands why their god specifically called that order that way would be super interesting, and could lead to some very fascinating roleplay.
@AskMia411
@AskMia411 3 года назад
@@leadpaintchips9461 unless they go the mandolorian route and they never take their helmets/armor off in the presence of others. Which sounds cool to me!
@ianalexander7662
@ianalexander7662 3 года назад
One aspect you didn't mentioned (or I missed) is most people who have never worn armor often don't realize the weight isn't what's going to kill you; it's the heat. I've worn plate, I've worn chain. I spent a year in Afghanistan wearing modern armor. While weight is always an issue, add big boob armor is creating more surface area for the sun to heat up. And heat is a killer. Doing SCA stuff, you could always tell which way the wind was blowing because those not fighting would always be turned towards it to help cool themselves off. Also on your point about skirts, well as anyone whose been in Afghanistan or Iraq (or any of those types of places) the people wear MORE clothing rather than less. This is to keep the sun off them (also to trap the evaporating sweat to make it more useful) So most folks back in the day wore tabards and I'm sure you are very well aware of this. My point is the cut or fabric or design of something like that can help ID the person if needed. (I always hate when I hear people say, "well they can't wear helmets; who would know who anyone was? Duh! That's what shield devices and all that heraldry was for!) Anyway, so many fantasy female armor just up and creates more nooks and crannies for the sun to shine on and thus heat up the fighter. Not good. Like the need to give room for the warrior to breath, you need enough give to allow moisture out which is already tough given you're probably wearing some form of t-shirt under your gambeson/uniform under all the armor. So yeah, skin tight armor is a disaster in that way too. Not to mention the smell! Ugh! Being in a HUMVEE with three others for 8 hours in the heat is something better left imagined and never experienced. I am happy you pointed out about how many fantasy armor with no under protection would result in a LOT of burns. So true!
@KRistos20x6
@KRistos20x6 2 года назад
Part of the reason the people of the Middle East and Central Asia wear long clothes is because of the influence of religion in those regions. Compare their clothes to the traditional garb of the (arguably hotter) sub-saharan parts of Africa.
@ledocteur7701
@ledocteur7701 2 года назад
there was a group of actors that specialized in reproducing medieval fighting scenes that visited my school once, they had the horses and everything. he was going over a lot of explanations and I actually got to wear a chainmail for demonstration purposes, it was way too large for my small kid body, and I was far from being any level of strong. the weight was easily bearable, and it was very comfortable over a simple T-shirt.
@DanielWilliams-oi4ss
@DanielWilliams-oi4ss 2 года назад
Humidity is big factor here. If it's hot and humid, covering up is less good. Hot and dry more cloth can be beneficial.
@AskMia411
@AskMia411 2 года назад
Thank you for this! It’s good to have input from people who’ve actually had to wear armor, because it adds levels of detail and realism! Higher surface area = really warm hadn’t occurred to me, so that is very helpful knowledge!
@pasikuisma1948
@pasikuisma1948 Год назад
@@KRistos20x6 people in sub saharan africa are also black. Very black. You go there champ & come and tell me whether light white clothing with full covering or traditional clothing from the place suits you better !
@hungariangiraffe6361
@hungariangiraffe6361 Год назад
If I created a fantasy world, I would surely say that there are two types of armours: 1. The practical. This is used in battles for both genders, it's all about protection, the look is absolutely the last thing that is considered in the producing. 2. The decorative. This is used on parades, sometimes on weddings and by diplomats. So when good look is important. Not strong, makes moving pretty hard, but beautiful. And since it was never made for war, practical purposes don't matter, it's basically like an elegant suit. Warriors on paintings would be wearing those. But it still covers the whole body so it doesn't look ridiculous.
@Jones_to_Bear
@Jones_to_Bear Год назад
Really good vid. I enjoyed it a lot, and gave me insight to things I hadn’t even considered. Not that I devote a lot of time to this kind of thing. One thing you missed in the divots are a disadvantage section, as you rightly point out that convex shapes deflect blows, but you didn’t mention that the divots will actively concentrate blows to the chest directly above the heart. Just thought I’d slip that in.
@andrews4321
@andrews4321 3 года назад
If your armor doesn't prevent you from getting stabbed or bashed in the vital bits, that's a good sign that you need to go back to the drawing board.
@mirandak7242
@mirandak7242 3 года назад
very wise words😂
@arachnophilia427
@arachnophilia427 3 года назад
exception not mentioned above: gladiator armor. it's the opposite of functional armor, designed to protect limbs and such that would be non-fatal match ending injuries, but leaving the vital bits completely unprotected for the rare and dramatic sudden deaths. we actually have historical, contemporary depictions of gladiatrix armor: they fought topless. (and were pretty rare and generally regarded as a travesty)
@TheWelshDwarf
@TheWelshDwarf 3 года назад
@@arachnophilia427 don't forget that certain Celtic tribes engaged the Romans in battle naked, Nordic berserkers are also an example.
@pvshka
@pvshka 3 года назад
@@TheWelshDwarf pretty sure nordic berserker are actually more of a myth
@ToabyToastbrot
@ToabyToastbrot 3 года назад
Also arrows are a thing. And thrown spears. Any number of projectiles...
@sandyholmerin2925
@sandyholmerin2925 3 года назад
My suggestion is that we need less plate and more diversity in our armour choices. Like you pointed out, there are so many options!
@reganator5000
@reganator5000 Год назад
One thing to remember with some video-game armour (skyrim and world of warcraft are notable for doing this) is that it might just be a texture, rather than a 3d object, and so part of the issue that causes (or caused, given most AAA games don't need to save resources by doing this anymore) boob plate is that it is the exact same shape as the cloth clothing. That's why SOME examples look skin tight, because, for budget reasons it literally is just a skin- this could be improved by altering womens civilian fashion to corsets/stays which (if you avoid the super-thin waisted tight-lacing of high fashion corsets and stick to a more sensible version) don't suck in as noticeably below the chest.
@ieajackson5518
@ieajackson5518 Год назад
This is very interesting! I intend to get into constructing armor, (I’m building a forge in my garden at the moment) and I feel like the historical sources referenced on this channel may be helpful.
@nivekian
@nivekian 3 года назад
Mandalorian armor got a lot of design help by women cosplaying in groups like the 501st and Mandalorian Mercs, people wearing gear, on growed floors & various other exercises. They have fictional narrative help because it's Star Wars, but you can see in the very functional design that Women and Man Mandos gear is movement plausible and makes them visually standing.
@adenkyramud5005
@adenkyramud5005 2 года назад
The good thing about mandos is that men and women are so equal that there aren't even different words for mother and father, or son and daughter. Just one word for each. That means that both men and women go out to fight wars, and both wear armor basically all the time. It's even part of the resol'nare, the six things that make you mandalorian. So the armor has evolved over many generations to be basically as practical as it can be while still following traditional design. With obvious design choices made by each individual Mando because the armor is a mando's way of expressing themselves. Imo probably the coolest fictional armor in media.
@Andrewtr6
@Andrewtr6 2 года назад
Yet there were still those who had a problem with the female Mandalorians having "booob armor" ignoring that the male armor has a pec indent.
@The_Lucent_Archangel
@The_Lucent_Archangel 2 года назад
The Mandalorians as a rule were utterly focused and devoted to a core set of ideals. The fact that they didn't draw gendered distinctions or the like isn't something you should imprint asinine contemporary first world thinking onto, because in such a mercilessly martial society the key takeaway is that anyone able-bodied and committed can be forged into a warrior. It's not some glimpse into utopian egalitarianism, especially considering that even the Mandos came to realize that constant warfare and strife was unsustainable in the long term - hence the attempted reforms which led to them becoming far more insular and less combat-driven (in the mainstream anyway). It has some parallels to say the Klingons in Trek, who went from imperialistic expansion to a more liberalized but still tradition-heavy way of life to include peace accords with a longtime adversary on their border. I do of course refer to them in the classical sense, and not the garbage reinterpretation retcons carried out in recent years. Interestingly both groups also wear armor into battle - but I'd have to say Mando Beskar is far and away better than the (duranium?) that the Klingons use in theirs. Then again, I'd be curious to see how well Beskar would hold up against the dense antiproton burst/beam of a disruptor or the nadion pulses of a phaser. Rebels did make it out that a teenage Mando chick was able to render Beskar essentially moot with a WMD that would fry other Mandos inside their armor. Pretty disturbing stuff.
@Bearical
@Bearical 2 года назад
@@The_Lucent_Archangel What I like about the Mandalorian female warriors is that they actually behave like women. Alot of female warriors in fiction are basically men with a female body. Men and women are different, but both can fight.
@ianesgrecia8568
@ianesgrecia8568 Год назад
@@Bearical And that is a bad trend in today holiwood. Instead of making an actual strong independent female character, they make a male character and genderswap. And not ANY male character. The very egocentric insulting male character that people don't actually care for. It's like they never saw Alien with Rippley. Or Ororo and Rogue from X-men, or Mulan from the original tales. All which actually are proud to be female and embrace their emotions and feminine side. Just once I wished to see a male protagonist with a more 'feminine personality' like an empathetic and kind person. If anyone has suggestions i'd love it.
@andresrivera1638
@andresrivera1638 3 года назад
I like how sometimes your accent is really thick and sometimes you can’t hear it.
@spuddart3540
@spuddart3540 3 года назад
Ikr. I genuinely have no clue at this stage what country she's even from.
@maddie9602
@maddie9602 3 года назад
@@spuddart3540 I think she mentioned at one point being from Northern Ireland? Don't quote me on that.
@duncandl910
@duncandl910 3 года назад
@@maddie9602 sounds northern Irish to me
@chrism.4912
@chrism.4912 Год назад
Great video! Very informative. Thank you. 👍🏼
@theonewhoknocks1412
@theonewhoknocks1412 3 года назад
Meanwhile warrior women in any fantasy game: *ARMORED BIKINI*
@MiloDC
@MiloDC 3 года назад
Which is perfectly fine, because practicality is never the most important factor in a game. (Neither should it be.)
@talizorahnarrayya5916
@talizorahnarrayya5916 3 года назад
Not advocating for armor bikini, I find them ridiculous, you don't need to show 90% skin to have a "sexy" Armor if you really want one, but sometime fantasy CAN get away with it in term of utility if the armor bikini is enchanted or has warding spell or thing like that.
@Gerald-of-Riviera
@Gerald-of-Riviera 3 года назад
I adore The Witcher 3, but if you got the GOTY edition their is an option to turn on a unique set of clothes/armor for three important characters, one being Ciri and her unique armor leaves her stomach COMPLETELY open. It's one thing for a sorceress, it's another for someone who actively fights monsters and beings from another world.
@talizorahnarrayya5916
@talizorahnarrayya5916 3 года назад
@@Gerald-of-Riviera to be fair ciri does have her elder blood magic, but yeah, one thing for a sorceress, another for a Witcher
@ginnyjollykidd
@ginnyjollykidd 3 года назад
Man fan service.
@TheLordofMetroids
@TheLordofMetroids 3 года назад
One extra point that is mostly forgotten about is the question of how the person is acquiring the armor. If they are a wealthy landlord of some sort, or an adventurer, they can design their armor personally, based on their own aesthetics. If they are a member of an organization, their armor is designed to fit all comers, and this is what you wear. The lord or commander doesn't give a crap if soldier 482 looks good in their armor. If they want something that fits their form better, pay for it their own bloody self. I hate the "spot the main character," game when everyone in the story should have roughly been given the same armor.
@CaptainKeen
@CaptainKeen 3 года назад
Eh, the main character usually seem to at least be high ranking enough to get something special, or freelance adventurers. Rarely are they soldier 482, though for somebody writing that kind of story this would be a good way to emphasize it.
@Olav_Hansen
@Olav_Hansen 3 года назад
If you are wearing plate it is awfully likely that it was made to your shape, since plate is kind of a bitch if it's not tailormade. As for other armor, unless you got it from a liege/robbed it of a corpse/had it as family heirloom it is quite likely that it at least got some adjustments when you made the purchase. Most armor is relatively modular, so you could get away with a lot of body shapes. Although I severely question how feminine one will look when there's thick padding with mail over it.
@ShadeAssault
@ShadeAssault Год назад
Having done a wayyy too in-depth report on Roman armor a long time ago... so far in-depth my professor made me cut 3/4 of the armor and all the weapons from it, I appreciate this. Both hilarious and informative.
@fobinc
@fobinc Год назад
The physics and design video I didn't know I needed, thanks for that!
@pepi88
@pepi88 3 года назад
It´s a great thing, watching Merida become a youtuber in times of peace =)
@drakebloodknight7981
@drakebloodknight7981 3 года назад
She fights for her own hand...
@aswaney7449
@aswaney7449 2 года назад
Merida is Scottish though, not Irish.
@John73John
@John73John 3 года назад
Kitties! My thoughts on boob armor: Just don't. Your purpose on the battlefield is killing the bad guys and not getting killed yourself. Design the armor around that. When you're NOT on the battlefield, that's when you should wear what you want to look sexy if that's your thing. My auto mechanic wears greasy overalls when he works on my car but he wears nice-looking clothes when he and his wife go out to dinner. Same concept.
@Graendal
@Graendal 3 года назад
It's shocking to me how infrequently people bring this concept up... like... Do you go to the Gym in a full suit or the office in gym shorts? Oh whats that, you're a sane person and actually wear clothing appropriate for the circumstance? Yeah, fictional characters should probably do the same thing. And that is not even mentioning the fact that armor is designed to protect you from attempts to make you not alive, not conscious, or not able bodied anymore; either from the elements or from those that are ACTIVELY attempting to make that happen. Why would you willingly give them an advantage by wearing impractical armor, or no armor at all? You are going into Battle, going into a massive competition with the highest possible stakes; choosing to wear flashy but impractical armor is like playing Texas Holdem, but only you can't use the river card. Except... for more than just money.
@mitchryan257
@mitchryan257 3 года назад
It’s fantasy, the majority of the armor is unrealistic.
@PippetWhippet
@PippetWhippet 3 года назад
Go have a look at Henry VIII's armour! But then I guess he wasn't exactly on the battlefield to fight, so the huge... protrusion falls under the "wear what you want to look sexy" category i guess! Though it's very true that most medieval men enjoyed extraordinarily waspish waists as their look, and they certainly did translate that to their armour, albeit with an optical illusion - the waist was normal sized and the chest was huge and barrelled. I suppose you have to consider that before the concept of "total war", or at least, in between it's applications, battle was a gentleman's game, and most knights were captured by an enemy who treated them as a lord until a ransom was paid, so hardly the same stakes as your mechanic. More like your mechanic when he goes hunting - he doesn't need to catch anything to feed his family, so it doesn't matter that all his gear is "urban soldier" and not actually good camouflage in the woods, but he can go home empty handed without his family starving, he's only there to drink beers with his mates so practicality can give way to fashion.
@EduardoLopez-oo7vk
@EduardoLopez-oo7vk 3 года назад
Well boob plates don’t actually offer any disadvantage people who say it directs the attack towards the center of your chest don’t actually know anything about armor if someone attacks the initial striking point is going to absorb most of the blow and if it does get directed to the center of your chest it’s going to slightly push you back
@thecrazycatgentleman6188
@thecrazycatgentleman6188 3 года назад
Just thought I'd mention it: The wasp-waist helps to distribute the armors' weight across the hip instead of concentrating it at the shoulders. Boob plate has no practical function.
@dibblethewrecker
@dibblethewrecker Год назад
Excellent piece of work!
@mrtalos
@mrtalos 3 года назад
Things I like. This woman knows her stuff, she understands how sometimes it is about the look, can be critical where it counts, uses fantastic examples. Things I don't like. How I've only now just found this channel. Brilliant work
@jeremyfeldmann7969
@jeremyfeldmann7969 2 года назад
try the video by shad it cover it a little better she did a good job but he did it just a little better
@moemuxhagi
@moemuxhagi 2 года назад
@@jeremyfeldmann7969 well shad had a trolgy of 30 min videos, this is just one 20 min video, of course he said more
@jeremyfeldmann7969
@jeremyfeldmann7969 2 года назад
@@moemuxhagi which why he does a little more of in depth. Look at it.
@pauloazuela8488
@pauloazuela8488 2 года назад
@@jeremyfeldmann7969 But I like that there's a female one speaking through. Since It's interesting to know it from a woman herself. Not saying Shad is wrong but it adds credibility too. I do watch that time with Shad a year ago 2times
@PrototypeSpaceMonkey
@PrototypeSpaceMonkey 3 года назад
Me, nodding sagely at this video: "Ahh yes, anatomy. Hmm, historical accuracy, so true." Also me, playing as Noelle in Genshin Impact: "Haha! Stiletto heel maid knight go brrr!"
@mariosuarez6656
@mariosuarez6656 3 года назад
*happy Bless armor pack mod for skyrim se noises*
@andryuu_2000
@andryuu_2000 3 года назад
As long as you don't believe boob armor is historically accurate, it's fine, it's hard to say no to good looking girls
@WhisperingAila
@WhisperingAila 3 года назад
historically accurate? no. stylish and fun? heck yeah. when you have magic powers and abilities, you kinda just . . . don't care about armor. that's kinda why cultures like native americans, vikings, and britons just didn't care about armor. if you survived, your rites were correct and your favor and magic was strong. if you died, hey, you get the mead hall!
@PrototypeSpaceMonkey
@PrototypeSpaceMonkey 3 года назад
@@WhisperingAila Any kind of armor on my lv. 90 Noelle tank build is entirely decorative anyways... Like Superman wearing a bullet proof vest.
@Black.Spades
@Black.Spades 3 года назад
@@WhisperingAila They didn't wear metal armour over their whole body. That doesn't mean their clothing was not designed to be protective. Native Americans for example consist of many different tribes with many fighting styles. Some wore more protection leather than others depending on the region. Vikings' clothes were designed for mobility. That doesn't mean they just put on a shirt and trousers and were ready for battle. They still wore protective clothing. Sturdy leather pieces, and depending on the time period and rank also metal pieces. So they did wear armour.
@DanielCoffey67
@DanielCoffey67 Год назад
I remember a few years ago Skallagrim did a video on female "fantasy" armour and used his partner as a demonstration. For some reason the video got removed. I don't know if he got complaints or whether he wasn't happy with the result but the two of them were in stitches demonstrating the problems with "fantasy" armour together.
@stevenweller9413
@stevenweller9413 Год назад
This popped up on my feed and I figured “why not watch?” Now I have to subscribe to the channel because it was so well done. Technical and down to earth, tough to do but you did it well.
@Andrew-pr9xv
@Andrew-pr9xv 3 года назад
I'm afraid you'll find that armour must i repeat MUST be perfectly contoured to the curves of the armourers ideal woman. Bonus protection is provided by the addition of extra nipples. IE. The Bat-Nipples Principle.
@JillBearup
@JillBearup 3 года назад
Bat Butts are also a necessity. (nods sagely)
@wisdommanari6701
@wisdommanari6701 3 года назад
GRRM has a term in ASOIAF that something is as useful as nipples on a breastplate. Aka Totally fucking useless. But yes bat nipples are indeed a must lmao
@Gauldame
@Gauldame 3 года назад
If we could only develop the technology to construct an armor completely of bat nipples, the wearer would be unkillable.
@olesams
@olesams 3 года назад
Well it`s logical. If curved shapes provide better protection then it is only logical that two more curves on the same breastplate increases the armor value! Plate armor - AC18 "My character is female" -AC 20
@Sembazuru
@Sembazuru 3 года назад
Extra nipples? Like how many extra? 10?
@maddiedoesntkno
@maddiedoesntkno 3 года назад
“Metal on skin is distinctly un-fun” Just ask Carrie Fisher, poor thing. (Also, KItties!
@jesusleyva4386
@jesusleyva4386 3 года назад
I miss Carrie Fisher. She was so funny
@vinnie666
@vinnie666 3 года назад
but there are no bras in space! it's just science!
@JoybuzzerX
@JoybuzzerX 3 года назад
Her's wasn't armor and who cares about their sex slave being comfortable? :p
@pollyflores418
@pollyflores418 3 года назад
@@JoybuzzerX I think it’s more about the actress being comfortable, like Jill mentioned. And the audience, if I might add.
@LucyWest370
@LucyWest370 3 года назад
I thought that metal on skin wasn’t an actual thing, they put fluff on the inside of the armor to make it more comfortable
@FoxBox72
@FoxBox72 Год назад
I have absolutely no idea why this came up on my suggested videos feed. But it did, and I found it fascinating. Thanks !
@steven.events
@steven.events Год назад
I believe my recent search, for Argonauts, is the reason in my case.
@Paper.beatsrock
@Paper.beatsrock Год назад
Got brought here from shorts. I had no idea armour was as complicated as this, think I’m about to enter a RU-vid rabbit hole. Fantastic video, love the content!
@ALeftyGoth
@ALeftyGoth 3 года назад
Jill: Lots of good points about armor design for both function and aesthetics. Me: Is that how you're supposed to say "cuirass"!?
@-Jake
@-Jake 3 года назад
Same
@gloweye
@gloweye 2 года назад
I like the idea of feminizing armor through paint. Can be protective AND elegant. Sure, it'll wear off pretty fast when people try to kill you, but battles are actually pretty rare, even in war. Even if there's no historical precedent I'm aware of, I can't imagine it reducing protectiveness, yet still look like desired.
@maddiwrites1409
@maddiwrites1409 Год назад
Exactly, like Sabine Wren from Star Wars Rebels!
@StrawberryAqua
@StrawberryAqua Год назад
Men painted their armor, so that’s realistic.
@garywebster3044
@garywebster3044 Год назад
Yep on a battlefield you definitely want to accentuate your femininity. Fancy embellished armor was kind of useful if you wanted to be ransomed instead of summarily killed.
@burgermind802
@burgermind802 Год назад
@Gary Webster 90% of the time you're just marching around in formation while people watch, then in battle nobody cares
@zoeevans543
@zoeevans543 Год назад
They painted shields all the time
@alecelliott7506
@alecelliott7506 Год назад
Watching this video has made me realize how effective different types of armor would be in a narrative sense. The type of armor that characters wear could say a lot about their character. A character more committed to learning to fight would wear more gender unspecific armor while a character that holds more value in the way others view them might wear armor with slight disadvantages but looks prettier or more masculine. Good video!
@NicleT
@NicleT Год назад
That’s an excellent video, wow! Not a armor neither a game fan, but how you deliver history is absolutely fascinating. Great work! Oh! And I forgot: *Kitty!*
@emaleemarrazzo7502
@emaleemarrazzo7502 3 года назад
i love that you used facts, such as the differences in men and women bodies, and the fact that women are typically not a strong as men, and the fact that you don't want to make a target out of yourself. in battle people won't be courteous, they won't let other women attack women, they would attack the women because they would be an easier target. facts are important when it comes to realism in fiction. i also found this very helpful, i love writing and cosplay so this was actually very helpful.
@SpectralKnight
@SpectralKnight 3 года назад
Well I mean the whole "They want to rape you" issue is also fairly important. War usually gets people raped (though mostly women)
@TheMangoMovement
@TheMangoMovement 3 года назад
What argument for women wearing real armor and not bikini plate isn't using facts?
@SovietArmyGuy
@SovietArmyGuy 3 года назад
One of murphy's laws of combat: don't be flashy and try to look like the less important member of your unit, the enemy might want to not be wasting a bullet on the smol grunt
@legrandliseurtri7495
@legrandliseurtri7495 2 года назад
@@SpectralKnight The rape part sounds kind of complicated if you're in the middle of the battle and you're wearing armor.
@legrandliseurtri7495
@legrandliseurtri7495 2 года назад
@@SovietArmyGuy I remember a fantasy serie where the army usually wore green armor, but this one woman chose a purple armor to proudly show her difference compare to other people(the fact that she has purple skin). The commander of the army was super pissed precisely because she would draw attention to herself in a battle(and also because he's an asshole who hates her but that's another story).
@MetFanMac
@MetFanMac 3 года назад
“Now, there is a tendency at a point like this to look over one’s shoulder at the cover artist and start going on at length about leather, tightboots and naked blades. Words like ‘full’, ‘round’ and even ‘pert’ creep into the narrative, until the writer has to go and have a cold shower and a lie down. Which is all rather silly, because any woman setting out to make a living by the sword isn’t about to go around looking like something off the cover of the more advanced kind of lingerie catalogue for the specialized buyer. Oh well, all right. The point that must be made is that although Herrena the Henna-Haired Harridan would look quite stunning after a good bath, a heavy-duty manicure, and the pick of the leather racks in Woo Hun Ling’s Oriental Exotica and Martial Aids on Heroes Street, she was currently quite sensibly dressed in light chain mail, soft boots, and a short sword. All right, maybe the boots were leather. But not black.”
@pullybungieharder
@pullybungieharder 3 года назад
Oh, I miss Sr Pratchett's writing. Thank you for the reminder.
@NemoConsequentae
@NemoConsequentae 3 года назад
GNU Terry Pratchett!
@ZannNewman
@ZannNewman Год назад
the sister of battle at 16.20 is in powered armour with muscle fibres under hard plates. the two huge boob domes are purely decorative (in world the church was banned from having 'men under arms' so armed the nuns and dressed them to show it)
@havenparks
@havenparks 3 месяца назад
I'm designing a character's armor for a book. Thanks for the information! I've watched your videos before, but I came back today specifically for a refresher. (Especially for the breastplate, etc.)
@robynholley2180
@robynholley2180 3 года назад
"4. Breathing is important!" don't know why...but the obviousness of the point and the total casual way you delivered that line made me giggle lol
@vincegonzalez2171
@vincegonzalez2171 3 года назад
I'm just imaging someone drinking hot tea on a cold Scottish day, and looking outside their window, only to see Jill doing a series of stiff lightsaber swings while wearing a giant plastic bra. EDIT: You guys might be right that she's Northern Irish, I was just guessing. Let's settle on UK.
@tyree9055
@tyree9055 3 года назад
I'd watch... I'll let you'll figure if it's her sword technique, her physique, or the wierd clothing combination that got my attention! 🤣
@anarchclown
@anarchclown 3 года назад
@@tyree9055 All of the above?
@JimMorrisonLoL
@JimMorrisonLoL 3 года назад
I'm looking, but all I see is Edinburgh Castle 🤷🏼‍♂️
@Pantherblack
@Pantherblack 3 года назад
"Oi Agnes... Jill's at it again!"
@FirstNameLastName-tg3rc
@FirstNameLastName-tg3rc 3 года назад
I'm laughing at the thought.
@parrotpenner2947
@parrotpenner2947 Год назад
you have earned my subscribe this video is great lol always find this topic interesting and funny as heck at the same time
@AaaFroms
@AaaFroms Год назад
Absolutely love the usage of lightsaber for the medieval boob-armor demonstration 🤣 Great video btw ⭐️
@aprophetofrng9821
@aprophetofrng9821 3 года назад
You mentioned how you wouldn't necessarily want to advertise your sex on the battlefield for various reasons. But then I thought about how if a dude wore boob plate, he could trick other guys into going after him and possibly underestimating his strength. That would have been a funny scene in GoT.
@snikeduden2850
@snikeduden2850 3 года назад
Yes! The Mountain would be a perfect candidate! lol
@TheMrEwe
@TheMrEwe 3 года назад
Dressing in drag as a survival mechanic?
@ginnyjollykidd
@ginnyjollykidd 3 года назад
@@TheMrEwe Guys have dressed in drag for so many reasons! Why not fighting?
@tjbarke6086
@tjbarke6086 3 года назад
Really, it'd just make more soldiers pile on... and he'd get exhausted faster...
@starcherry6814
@starcherry6814 3 года назад
I play COD a lot, and from experience. Enemies do target females the most because they stick out. I’m a good gamer but I can’t kill 3-4 people at once. They finally introduced Charly 🙌 so at least I get a fair chance to fight back 😹 (Because I’m not being dog piled)
@Psyrus88
@Psyrus88 3 года назад
"Enboobening" Learned a new word, today.
@olesams
@olesams 3 года назад
You should run it by Susie Dent tho.
@energ413
@energ413 3 года назад
I was hoping someone would make this comment
@masonolivo5909
@masonolivo5909 Год назад
It's funny how much influence wasp-waist had on the masculine body standards of the time. It actually became kinda masculine to have wide hips because it allowed a knight to wear heavier armor, or at least bear the weight of their armor easier. This is at least my understanding of this particular phenomenon.
@al3440
@al3440 Год назад
Informative👍🏻
@octanoia
@octanoia 3 года назад
Am I the only one who is satisfied by the inclusion of kitty footage to bring the video to a perfect 20 minutes? Love it. Also, KITTIES!
@KM-rt5jj
@KM-rt5jj 3 года назад
"Let's not add to a generously endowed woman's troubles" Hear hear
@wanderer13__
@wanderer13__ Год назад
A review the internet've been waiting for!
@32a34a
@32a34a Год назад
Gal herself has even stated that the bottom piece of her uniform was not the most comfortable. How they got it to be more comfortable is a funny story in of itself which she described in an interview.
@TheKauff
@TheKauff 3 года назад
I'm just here for the word "enboobening". Also, Kitties!
@ellismartiskainen7729
@ellismartiskainen7729 3 года назад
Yes. Kitties!
@hell3quin864
@hell3quin864 3 года назад
Lotsa kitties!
@paradisepipeco
@paradisepipeco 3 года назад
Things are not always quite what they seem. There may well be felonious faux felines afoot; nefarious bunny rabbits in furry little kitty kat kostumes. Fortunately, you can identify these pusillanimous pussy imposters by their _"Fake Mews."_
@rogermwilcox
@rogermwilcox 3 года назад
Shouldn't it be "emboobening", with an "em-"?
@paradisepipeco
@paradisepipeco 3 года назад
@@rogermwilcox You have confused Auntie Em with Aunt Teefa. Uncle Grampa will not be pleased, young Jedi, nor will the kitties. Your boobiferous remark shall not disenbooberate you from your boobiferous unbooberation, O ye of little stash. _Oh, the hugh manatee._
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