EP150: Don't Take it For Granite: The LDS Church's Top Secret Mountain Vault Revealed

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On this episode of Mormonish Podcast, Landon and Rebecca delve into the mysterious Granite Mountain Records Vault owned by the LDS Church. Former employee Kate joins the episode to tell us everything you've ever wanted to know but were afraid to ask about these little known and top secret storage facilities literally carved into a mountain.
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@TEAM__POSEID0N 2 месяца назад

So odd that so many 21st century Mormons aren't aware of the vaults. When I was a kid it seemed to be common knowledge. Driving up the Little Cottonwood Canyon, it would inevitably be at least a short topic of conversation (not infrequently tying into the "last days" and "The Millennium" or something). In other settings it wouldn't be unusual for people to wonder about the amazing things that maybe were in "the vaults" (in addition to genealogical records). Kind of reminds me of the gruesome "temple penalties". As soon as the leaders decided they weren't "useful" anymore, they got memory-holed. TBMs who experienced them wouldn't talk about them ("too sacred" and all that rot). The people whose temple experiences started after 1990 would accuse people of spreading "anti-Mormon lies" whenever someone tried to tell them about the penalties.

@CatskillsGrrl 22 дня назад

I only went to the temple once and it was pre-1990. That was all it took. It was all so unappealing I never went back. I’ve practically blocked it out it was so traumatic. It was the beginning of the end for me although it took me another 30 years to officially resign.

@anthonycampbell4534 2 месяца назад

A few weeks ago I read "Raven Rock" a book written by Garrett M. Graff. It is about the US government's effort to maintain continuity of government. One of the chapters discussed the NORAD Cheyenne Mountain Complex in Cheyenne Mountain near Colorado Springs. The complex was built in the late 1950s and early 1960s. According to the author, the government picked the Utah Construction and Mining Company to construct the complex because of their previous work building the LDS vaults in Granite Mountain.

@carolyearsley 2 месяца назад

There's also one in a rural area not far from D.C. The elite insiders have bunkers allover the place. Kill Bates has several. A lot of the numerous food recalls lately are being used to stock lots of their bunkers.

@nancyevans3590 2 месяца назад

As a child during the Cuban middle crisis I can attest to the frightening possibility of a nuclear war. It would not surprise me at all if those granite vaults were also intended to be a possible bomb shelter for top church leadership at the time. As Landon mentions it’s a lot of money just for genealogical records.

@truthseeker4431 2 месяца назад

AS a former elected official in Utah we were all on the Governors' Emergency Preparedness Team. We had tours of the SEVEN stories beneath the Church Office Building, as well as BYU where food, clothing, water, and tons of emergency medical supplies, and the lowest level is even a morgue in case of the impending disasters. IMO the morgue should be on the top level to toss out dead bodies. *eye roll* This is in prep for the earth to receive it's "paradisiacal glory"... LOL!

@patriciaball8346 2 месяца назад

You guys need to do an episode on the "Dream Mine" in Salem, Utah. An early Utah Mormon bishop had a "dream" that ancient Nephi treasure was hidden in a cave in the Salem, Utah. Many believing members bought stock in order for them to start mining to find the hidden gold/treasure. Nothing was ever found. The Dream Mine still exists on a hillside in Salem. Many TBM's still own stock in the "Dream Mine" and believe treasure will be found in the last days to save the church... News flash...the church is worth 250 BILLION, so I doubt they will need the treasure now!😮

@China-Clay 2 месяца назад

Yes they should!

@dstang44 2 месяца назад

The Dream Mine annual stockholders meeting is on May 13 at 2:00 PM in the Salem Community Center. You don’t need to have stock to attend. Board Directors speak and questions from the audience are welcome. It’s informative and somewhat entertaining. Also known as the Relief Mine. They have a facebook page. It’s not only a mine. The company has orchards and real estate.

@patrickofco3059 2 месяца назад

John Larsen in the Mormon Discussions podcast did an episode on the dream mine. Very interesting.

@patrickofco3059 2 месяца назад

Make that the Mormon Expression podcast with John Larsen

@TwoTreesVisuals 2 месяца назад

You guys have been getting some incredibly interesting guests.

@kerryholyoak5720 2 месяца назад

Temple records would probably contain second anointing records.

@sallyostling 2 месяца назад

So fun! I want a secret vault. The LDS Church is like Bruce Wayne 😂

@TheSaintelias 2 месяца назад

Nice one

@user-mn447 2 месяца назад

I did hear about the vault as a kid, but didn’t know exactly where it was. I always pictured it in my head, and it looks like I thought!

@TexasRoadrunner 2 месяца назад

As a never mo, but a family history nut I heard about the vault... all that Space for Aunt Millies Apple Pie Recipe...

@jerrimenard3092 2 месяца назад

I bet it taste like mud.

@nancyevans3590 2 месяца назад

Back in the 60’s my husband took a tour with his Grandma of the vaults. Apparently Tours were common back then . The only thing he can really remember is the reservoir, which he thought was cool. I can see a very practical reason why they don’t give tours anymore though. Even though the population of Salt lake county has boomed, there’s still only a 2 lane highway up the canyon. It’s a nightmare to try to get to those ski resorts in the winter. In the 60’s even 33 south was rural, Draper was all farms and the west valley was even more sparsely populated. Can you imagine the traffic if they have tours now? I’m kinda glad they don’t.

@TheSaintelias 2 месяца назад

Guess god can’t record things in heaven so he needed a vault in UT?

@quacks2much 2 месяца назад

God needs computers too. Jim Carey's movie where he was god might be stupid fun, but it makes good points about the concept of god being illogical, whether or not the makers of the movie knew it.

@pollydunn3191 2 месяца назад

🤣🤣🤣

@boysrus61 2 месяца назад

I wonder how much clients have to pay to have their secrets stored in these Perpetual Storage vaults!

@norgepolo 2 месяца назад

Granite Mountain is misnamed. The rock that both the Granite Mountain vault and Perpetual Storage’s vault are carved into is quartz monzonite, not granite. Quartz monzonite is frequently mistaken for granite due to the similar coloring.

@sarahcarvell1786 24 дня назад

I visited Utah in 1980 as a new member. I was told about the vaults and was given a leaflet about them. At that point they were sharing that family history records were being kept there!

@danielkaranja7978 2 месяца назад

Never Mormon here. The use of underground spaces to save critical records for enterprise institutions isn't unusual at all. So am not surprised that the LDS church has their own underground vault because they have the financial resources to do it themselves. As a matter of fact, there is a company called "Iron Mountain" in the USA which stores client records in an old iron ore mine in NY. They will come to your business as needed, collect your records (paper, hard disk, tapes, etc) and ship them to their secure facilities.

@brooklynparkse 2 месяца назад

I believe I’ve heard stories of people hearing of documents that they suspected were in the vault (or other storage) but couldn’t request because they weren’t listed. And it was only through public shaming of the church that they were able to access things. Are things publicly categorized and searchable or are some things unfindable? Like, I thought the seer stones were stumbled upon in the vault.

@bombadillo2 16 дней назад

This is where Chad Daybell's "portals" came from! 😂😂😂 😂

@bcnidiomas6528 2 месяца назад

Is there any gold or weapons from LDS Church protection ?

@TheodusJ.Whoopie 2 месяца назад

I’m guessing the church is hoarding lots and lots of gold in there

@unwind4068 2 месяца назад

I don't believe there is that much in there other than mementos from beloved penis-holders and redundant genealogy records. What they are doing there is very conspicuously performing security. Regardless of the worth of the objects contained therein it makes people believe there must be extreme value there. It must be immensely valuable based on the money required for this operation. We now know the expenses are less than a thousandth of a percent in any LDS church ledger. The real value involved is in demonstrating the immense value of the objects contained- over and over again. It's marvelous propaganda. Any of JS's belongings have value as proof that the brigamite sect is rightful successor. I appreciate the work, fun to learn about these things!

@Tina06019 2 месяца назад

I am a big fan of paper. Every time I come across a floppy disk, I wonder what is on it.

@Hilla3of5 2 месяца назад

Oh… That floppy disk would be my 7th grade science class power -point presentation on the evolution of whales. I wondered where that went. 😉 😁 (Tbh, I feel the same way when I come across antiquated data storage devices.)

@TheSaintelias 2 месяца назад

You are correct. Our time period will be forgotten to time because info are digital. Even if found they won’t have the programs to read it.

@PatriciaNoel-qp2ff 2 месяца назад

FOLLOW THE MONEY!😮

@beckyburnett2246 2 месяца назад

Great episode! This has become my favorite podcast!

@nancyjohnson8642 2 месяца назад

Fascinating! Utterly fascinating!

@truthseeker4431 2 месяца назад

Landon: In 1966 several fragments of the papyri were found in the archives of the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York and in the LDS Church archives. They are now referred to as the Joseph Smith Papyri. They are not in the vault.

@mormonishpodcast1036 2 месяца назад

Where are they now? The Metropolitan Museum returned them to the church. I have never seen them displayed.

@chipsandguac2 11 дней назад

Honestly, not much considered valuable stuff are not in the Vaults. Anything someone would consider valuable or big ticket items are stored in the President's Vault that is under temple square. The secret "F Vault" really just had journals, meeting notes, old typewriters, first edition of books in different languages. Video and audio recordings. But even the seer stone is kept in the President's vault downtown.

@chipsandguac2 11 дней назад

These Vaults are mostly storage, not much to use for research

@chipsandguac2 11 дней назад

Haha. I just finished the video and see this all was said in it! I worked there for 8 years and I didn't realize people were so curious about it

@MikeMitchellishere Месяц назад

As clearly demonstrated in 1 Nephi, the church believes records are worth taking someone's life to protect.

@leerhea9298 2 месяца назад

Are there any living quarters inside? Provisions?

@thesaltwitch9819 2 месяца назад

no real living quarters (outside of a couch in the women's bathroom, and the break room), but food storage and other provisions for emergencies.

@tawnyachristensen7310 2 месяца назад

So interesting!

@danaroberts4409 2 месяца назад

Given the recent knowledge of the church's vast wealth, and as any astute investment advisor will say: "diversify", meaning invest across a wide spectrum or assets, then doesn't it make sense that there would also be a considerable and sizable quantity of what is often called "God's money" -- GOLD!! It's safe against market fluctuations and government collapse, but most importantly - it's secret. No one would ever know how much is buried there. Oh my!

@janetroberts6441 2 месяца назад

Great comment!

@tamaraelsberry6630 2 месяца назад

I like that. If they have sound financial advice from their advisors at all.. that would definitely be important for them to have.

@nancylowe2692 2 месяца назад

I remember back in the 70s-80s hearing sbout the church getting a lot of gold from Imelda Marcos of the Phillipines when their government collapsed & a large amount of gold was made available to buy. The rumor, not church policy or anything like that, was that the gold would be needed to"buy" freedom for the saints if a greedy dictator took over the country. 😂 totally urban legend!

@FunHappyAngryBirds 2 месяца назад

Do apostles have complete access to the vault ?

@TexasRoadrunner 2 месяца назад

Sorenson's YDNA database may be inside- In mid 2000's Ancestry said it would be destroyed because of privacy issues.

@chipsandguac2 11 дней назад

I worked there for 8 years. I knew Kate

@Wendybaker2009 2 месяца назад

I know what isn't in the vault....a coffee maker.

@casterrunner8709 2 месяца назад

I just have to say, your guest need not disguise herself with an avatar! Chick, you gave enough info about yourself, and your voice, to be Outed! Plus, you are definitely o e who likes to tell. I’d never share personal information With ya! You’d be the gossiper! Super Interesting episode. Thanks!👍

@PatriciaNoel-qp2ff 2 месяца назад

Info on Kitchener Documents?

@michellemilne3315 2 месяца назад

1:08:08 hunker in a bunker 😂

@truthseeker4431 2 месяца назад

Upon his death, L. Ron Hubbard was cremated and his ashes were scattered in the Pacific Ocean.

@bendyrland7213 2 месяца назад

It's where the bodies are buried.

@codyironworks307 2 месяца назад

You guys are a hoot😂

@nancylowe2692 2 месяца назад

Guarding & protecting genealogical records might make more sense when one considers that when the Savior returns, at some point, He will receive these records from the Prophet or some GA. If that is true, then Satan would use every means at his disposal to thwart & destroy that plan.

@user-gg9vh9jr2q 2 месяца назад

Does this vault contain living records as well? Not just Temple work for the dead.

@edbutzwiggle4227 2 месяца назад

Interesting and silly

@PatriciaNoel-qp2ff 2 месяца назад

Wouldn’t all info be on computer hard drives? A lot of info can be stored .

@TheodusJ.Whoopie 2 месяца назад

Wow 😂Kate’s a fox 🦊 Actually, this was absolutely fascinating. Thank you ❤

@JaelHammerNPeg 2 месяца назад

Much like Scientology's project of preserving L Ron Hubbard's writings on metal plates in case of nuclear war.

@Jjj53214 2 месяца назад

Will church authorities flee to this facility to survive a nuclear attack?

@yanyanfourtwenty 2 месяца назад

The Kirchner Documents. Do they have them?

@celicalostandfound 2 месяца назад

Those are in the BYU Vault. And yes they have one there as well.

@annwood6812 2 месяца назад

If you read Latin or French you can buy them online

@celicalostandfound 2 месяца назад

@@annwood6812 The ones the Church has are from Dartmouth College from the John Smith collection. Notes in the margins is what I want to see if any..

@nancylowe2692 2 месяца назад

What are Kirchner documents?

@celicalostandfound 2 месяца назад

@@nancylowe2692 Athanasius Kircher was a Jesuit Priest in the 1600's. He claimed to have the ability to translate Egyptian Hieroglyphs into a form of "renewed Egyptian" that could then be translated into Latin. He claimed to translate the writings from an Egyptian Obelisk which he said was the Obelisk of Nephi. He also dabbled in automatons and made "balls of curious workmanship" with pointers and spindles with writings on them. Kircher went on to write several books on these subjects which Dartmouth College had in their libraries. Since then the Church has bought those books and tucked them away in the BYU Vault.

@ash1eygf 2 месяца назад

hello!

@user-mn447 2 месяца назад

🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️

@paulamortensen36 Месяц назад

I’ve known about the vaults all my life. It’s not secret

@mormonishpodcast1036 Месяц назад

Knowing about them and knowing what is in them is two different things.

@paulamortensen36 Месяц назад

@@mormonishpodcast1036 it’s very obvious was is in them

@hg4144 Месяц назад

I can’t believe you all are buying Brigham Young’s re-write of early Church history & doctrine

@mormonishpodcast1036 Месяц назад

What are you talking about? This video has nothing to do with Brigham Young!

@hg4144 Месяц назад

@@mormonishpodcast1036 Apologies for not listing what I was thinking, I was in a bit of a rush this morning. But I do remember you mentioning Joseph's"Hat" --- I hope you don't believe he used a hat & sear stone to translate the B of M.

@user-yo5ht6hm7q 2 месяца назад

Lol, it isn't a secret. I am 48 years old. And well, i knew about it since i was 11 years old. Most of Utah Mormons should know about it who ski at least and or explore the canyons.

@rebeccabibliotheca 2 месяца назад

Its interesting that people over a certain age know about it and younger people don't!

@connieburch8095 2 месяца назад

GENE DECODES : Says that Granite Mt was one of the underground Dumbs, child trafficking facilities... Like the Denver Airport. If i can find the link I'll post it. It was the same time all the mini earthquake were happening..

@funkyfreshtx 2 месяца назад

what’s the vault near Spanish Fork then?

@patriciaball8346 2 месяца назад

That is the Dream Mine

@China-Clay 2 месяца назад

The Dream Mine

@funkyfreshtx 2 месяца назад

Yeah, what is that? does anybody know?

@China-Clay 2 месяца назад

@@funkyfreshtx google it, I’ve seen it on there before

@smack3313 2 месяца назад

Nothing secret about the vaults. Commonly known.

@peteguy135 2 месяца назад

I went on a tour when this first was built by the church. I seen the lake in there and where the fish tapes would be there is nothing really there that's interesting to see. at the time the church leaders was planning to use it as a fall out shelter, but times have changed.