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Using K-Series Coils and Porsche Fuel Injectors on a Ford - Ford V10 4V Build Ep. 11 

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In this video, we test fit 997 GT2 RS fuel injectors, create the first coil-on-plug smart coils for a ford mod motors by modifying Honda K-series coils, test butt-splice connectors, and find a tsunami of a problem... (pun intended).
Also, a closer look at our camshaft core (yes, just one...).
00:00 - Intro
01:02 - Modifying K-series Coils
05:10 - Addressing Intake Questions
06:49 - Fuel Rails and Injectors
10:44 - Oil Pump Issues
13:16 - Wrapping Up Oil System
15:34 - Butt-Splice Test
21:00 - Leak Testing Cooling System
26:56 - Conclusion

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@71Kabomb
@71Kabomb Год назад
Couldn’t help but smile when you said Richard Holdener offered to dyno it, that’s awesome!
@arturozarate1752
@arturozarate1752 Год назад
Why is that awesome?
@71Kabomb
@71Kabomb Год назад
@@arturozarate1752 because Richard is not only a wealth of information who is well respected in the industry, he also has a large audience that will appreciate all the hard work that has gone into this unique build.
@arturozarate1752
@arturozarate1752 Год назад
@@71Kabomb thank you for indulging my curiosity.
@xjcrawlin91
@xjcrawlin91 Год назад
That's so awesome Richard offered to dyno it, can't wait to see that happen!
@Prestiged_peck
@Prestiged_peck Год назад
Holdener always likes new engines
@RANDOMNATION907
@RANDOMNATION907 Год назад
@@Prestiged_peck and turbos.
@Prestiged_peck
@Prestiged_peck Год назад
@@RANDOMNATION907 or better yet: new engines WITH turbos!!!
@joefwarren
@joefwarren Год назад
I've left so many comments on Richard's channel to do a V10! LOL
@802Garage
@802Garage Год назад
Too cool! He is such a rad guy.
@stevenhigginbottom5261
@stevenhigginbottom5261 Год назад
Content is content, don't forget. You're doing somethinhg nobody has tried before, so don't ever feel discouaged when you hit a bump. I can tell by watching how you guy's think that you'll figure this out. Great work as always.
@brandonrohrer7914
@brandonrohrer7914 Год назад
You guys are going to start a new craze
@Keasbeysknight
@Keasbeysknight Год назад
I hope! Hopefully there are enough content creators out there with access to some good machines to get this kind of stuff done. I am very excited for the future though as hobbyist versions of high end tools become more available.
@SlingSalsa
@SlingSalsa Год назад
Wow, you guys have inspired me to r&d an old idea I had for a v10 turbo dump truck with a zf6 and an overdrive box!!!!!
@xxxmikeyjock
@xxxmikeyjock Год назад
I cant wait to hear this thing sing
@biy_buildityourself
@biy_buildityourself Год назад
We can't either. Hopefully soon!
@allenl9031
@allenl9031 Год назад
YEAH Holdener helping out! He'll keep the squirrels under control.
@bri-manhunter2654
@bri-manhunter2654 Год назад
Is the squirrel comment on every Holdener video meant to malicious!
@RANDOMNATION907
@RANDOMNATION907 Год назад
I would much rather listen to the sound of the tools than the music-over. Very cool project. This could really be a huge deal. I'm a retired,factory trained Ford tech (mechanic). I've always wished Ford would have made a high performance DOHC version of this engine. Amazing work guys. You just got yourselves another subscriber. Please consider at least turning down the music volume. _And stay off my lawn!_ 🙃 Yeah, I'm slowly turning into a grouchy old fart.
@biy_buildityourself
@biy_buildityourself Год назад
Thanks you! And we appreciate the feedback!
@fgialcgorge7392
@fgialcgorge7392 8 месяцев назад
Bro, your editing on these videos is perfect. I get caught off guard by the meme clips every time.
@mchristr
@mchristr Год назад
A big part of engineering is problem solving and you guys knock it out of the park. To see this engine on the Westech dyno would be YT gold.
@biy_buildityourself
@biy_buildityourself Год назад
We can't wait to get it there. Thank you!
@bri-manhunter2654
@bri-manhunter2654 Год назад
That’s awesome, Richard Holdener wants to dyno her! He’s a national treasure.
@ryanlove5332
@ryanlove5332 9 месяцев назад
Lol, the butt joint test was gold 😂
@AK_Ray
@AK_Ray Год назад
That intro!!! 🔥🔥
@vintagespeed
@vintagespeed Год назад
you guys are killing it! the water leak is worrisome....keep at it!
@GetUpFalcon
@GetUpFalcon Год назад
There’s a channel called Peterbjorck on which a bloke welds up a Lamborghini v10 block (aluminium) after a huge chuck near a main cap broke off. He carves out a huge channel, must be 10mm deep and wide, and fills it up with weld. Would have gone through plenty of rods, but it machined up fine afterwards. Take your time and do it properly. You blokes are incredibly competent. Keep working to a high standard.
@biy_buildityourself
@biy_buildityourself Год назад
We will look them up. We definitely have to change our welding strategy on important welds like that in the future. Thank you!
@MultiMoveman
@MultiMoveman Год назад
Old school hot rod stuff, I like
@802Garage
@802Garage Год назад
This is absolutely awesome. Love all the work you are doing. However, get your shiz together with the crimps my guys hahaha. Either use the bare metal crimps like you have and add adhesive lined heat shrink or buy butt connectors with the adhesive lined heat shrink covers. :P I think you already figured that out though. Alternatively, replace entire wire lengths and buy the proper pins and crimping tool. I'm sure you can handle it. I don't want to see any not water proof crimped on the dang wiring. Loving this engine build. Huge bummer about the coolant leaks, but I'm sure you'll get it solved.
@biy_buildityourself
@biy_buildityourself Год назад
That's the plan, using uninsulated barrel crimps with self adhesive heat shrink! Will also be doing a bulkhead at the firewall and a custom fuse box, so lots of crimping with Metri-pack and timer terminals.
@DericO-rz3be
@DericO-rz3be 7 месяцев назад
VERY CLEVER CREATIVITY. AND SIGHT GAGS!! NICE 👌👌👌👌
@VictorMPR
@VictorMPR Год назад
There are crimp style butt connectors that also have the heat shrink tubing around them. Crimp, then heat. I’ve seen those even at Autozone and I have used them for over 15 years with no issues (well, the OEM VW/Audi ones, not the Autozone stuff). Also, you can more easily (and safely) measure the voltage drop of anything in a circuit with a load at one end. All you guys had to do was put a bulb at the end of the wire and run a wire from bulb to ground. The values may not have been as large, but you are just looking to compare.
@802Garage
@802Garage Год назад
Same type I use as well. Get the ratcheting crimpers designed for heat shrink butt connectors, pull test after crimping, then heat shrink. They last extremely well and are water proof.
@deanblanton-fh3gq
@deanblanton-fh3gq Год назад
The manifold looks good. But you fellas should clean up your welds, they take away from all that work you both have done so far. I’m just and old gear head that’s been doing what your doing since the late 50s. What ever that’s worth. Love your idea about doing the Ford V10. Always wanted to do one myself. You guys are an inspiration to an old street rodder. Keep it moving on down the road!
@joebeezy9471
@joebeezy9471 Год назад
I love watching these videos. My favorite part in every video is “…however, we had to make some modifications.” That’s when I know shit is about to get good! Nothing about Dorman is higher quality for anything. Stay away from Dorman!
@CTS-V
@CTS-V Год назад
Excellent progress, you're nearly there 👍
@jonathanblunt3779
@jonathanblunt3779 Год назад
Don’t use red rags or paper towels on the head surface unless you use pressurized air and brake clean to wash off any of the residual fibers. I love the build so far! You guys are amazing!
@biy_buildityourself
@biy_buildityourself Год назад
Thanks for the tip! Which type of wipe do you recommend? We might have to get some.
@arturozarate1752
@arturozarate1752 Год назад
@@biy_buildityourself coffee filters.
@jonathanblunt3779
@jonathanblunt3779 Год назад
Yup I second on the coffee filters, rags and paper towels are not to be used on the head surface, tiny fibers will compromise the headgasket seal
@jonathanblunt3779
@jonathanblunt3779 Год назад
@@biy_buildityourself I have not found any rags or towels that are truly lint free, pressurized air and brake cleaner will get off any lint fibers that might collect though if you do chose to use them, just make sure to oil the cylinder walls right after doing that, some cylinder walls when they’re dry they rust easy
@arturozarate1752
@arturozarate1752 Год назад
@@jonathanblunt3779 electrical contact cleaner leaves no film or residue behind like brake cleaner. Just my preference.
@Bynx_McFyden
@Bynx_McFyden Год назад
as a big Ford and JDM fan i LOVE the k24 coils. and im dying to see how richards followers react to the 4v V10. set backs are part of everything, dont take it too hard, keep plugging away guys!
@garrettscott4094
@garrettscott4094 Год назад
I'd love to see the performance difference with just that I take alone. Much better and higher air flow that the originals in the 2v and 3v models.
@gafrers
@gafrers Год назад
Great work. Love the attention to details and experimentation
@witchcraftauto
@witchcraftauto 8 месяцев назад
Love the Intro! Nice work gents
@IvyMike551
@IvyMike551 10 месяцев назад
Intake finish looks great... but I humbly recommend sanding down all the welds to be more smooth and "factory" looking... you won't regret it... bro, trust me.
@CoyoteFTW
@CoyoteFTW Год назад
I’ll pay for a build like this with my V10 Ford then shove it back into the Eseries and have the best overland rig ever
@stevenpopovich3587
@stevenpopovich3587 Год назад
Id love to have this type build in my f250 its so unique and would be an awesome power upgrade
@Racer..X
@Racer..X Год назад
Keep paving the way! Great work
@98lincolnmarkviii
@98lincolnmarkviii Год назад
One of the most exciting engine projects ive seen in years! Awesome work!
@paulcartmel1373
@paulcartmel1373 Год назад
This is my kind of build, you guys are awesome
@affordabledcgenerators1607
@affordabledcgenerators1607 Год назад
Great episode, good luck with the heads! This is top tier fab work, I wish all car shows were this good.
@Jimmysidecarr
@Jimmysidecarr Год назад
Awesome! Love this build!
@rootbeer666
@rootbeer666 Год назад
For air tests spray soapy water on joints and watch for bubbles.
@HammerWrench
@HammerWrench Год назад
Thank you for sharing your success and failures with this amazing build. I see your sub count is climbing as it should. V10 trailblazers. Can’t wait to see it in action.
@matswallsten1628
@matswallsten1628 Год назад
Really excited to follow your project, like your approach and also the way you put together this videos, perfect pace and balance with details and thoughts. Looking forward to hear this engine start up and go on the dyno. Good luck 🤞
@dadgarage7966
@dadgarage7966 Год назад
The applications are numerous. This would be THE engine going into my Factory Five Racing project, if I were to start one. Best of luck working with Richard Holdener.
@cannonroberts5129
@cannonroberts5129 Год назад
Good job boys. When you are doing something new it’s ok to have a few setbacks.
@CapablePimento
@CapablePimento Год назад
Awesome opening sequence! The plenum would look cool with beads sanded and blended in brushed natural. Btw there is nothing saying you cant solder a crimp. Best of both worlds. And the shrink with the hot glue inside is thick but so worth it.
@CapablePimento
@CapablePimento Год назад
Congrats on the camshaft solution. That must have been a nail biter problem.
@jonathanblunt3779
@jonathanblunt3779 Год назад
Non insulated butt connectors are a great option, do not use those solder joint butt connectors, the low temp solder has a big problem with consistent solder penetration.
@AnDrEw122100
@AnDrEw122100 Год назад
This is super cool, and Richard holdner is gonna dyno it . Make sure you hide the nitrous from him 🤣
@randr10
@randr10 Год назад
When you're doing the regular crimp style butt connectors, if you want to get them to be 100% corrosion free, slather the connection you've crimped with dielectric grease *before* putting the shrink tube over it. This will seal them pretty well and the excess grease will squish out the ends. It doesn't work as well at sealing as the kind that have the shrink tube built into the connector, which I think is essentially hot glue, and those you can submerge in salt water and have no problems, but it will resist splashing of water and rain indefinitely in my experience.. I have no experience with the solder kind, and I avoided them because I don't think the solder is getting hot enough from a heat gun before becoming molten to make a genuinely good and strong connection. This experience I have with this was hard won from doing field repairs on trailers for my father's fleet of trailers, and some automotive wiring as well. Trailers are notoriously unreliable for wiring because of how they often run in the shit and then get parked for months on end. I've had great luck on trailers with both the regular butt connector/dielectric/shrink tube combo and the crimp style butt connectors with the shrink tube built in. The holy grail seems to be a lineman splice, manual solder, dielectric grease, then shrink tube, but that takes so long I stopped doing it. On a project like this I might make an exception and do the work. Another thing I was surprised by was that wire nuts actually seem to last longer than butt connectors when unprotected from the elements. I did that one time on my father's trailer when I was a teenager just to get the thing home. That connection held for a few years and we ran that trailer in road salt constantly. They look janky as all hell but they work really well and they're plenty strong. I actually do all of my under-dash wiring for radios this way still because it allows me to quickly switch between different stereos if I choose to do so without having to shorten the pigtails on the connectors. I have literally never had a wire nut connection fail in this application.
@biy_buildityourself
@biy_buildityourself Год назад
Good tips!
@rodstrong01
@rodstrong01 Год назад
Try to pull vacuum on the welds when you epoxy your seams .it's will suck the epoxy into the holes
@CapablePimento
@CapablePimento Год назад
Good call
@biy_buildityourself
@biy_buildityourself Год назад
Great minds think alike! Haha. We just finished putting together a vacuum jig to try and suck the epoxy into every crevice. Fingers crossed 🤞
@randr10
@randr10 Год назад
You might do well to grind off your welds and re-do the internal plates on the heads. I have concerns about those external welds holding anyway because you just put the heads together and didn't vee out the mating surfaces, like at all, so there's only a glob of weld material sitting on top of the two pieces. I don't have high hopes for these holding together as the engine heat cycles. You're probably leaking at the mating surface as well since those welds were machined down, which will be really annoying because you might not see it until the engine is running and there's steam coming out the exhaust. I've never welded aluminum, but I've had a few steel welds fail and this is exactly why. I globbed weld material on top of the two pieces thinking they didn't need to be very strong, and lo and behold, they broke.
@randr10
@randr10 Год назад
Also, I know you don't want to hear this because it will mean possibly re-doing all of your cam and mating surface head work, but this is prototyping. It happens.
@biy_buildityourself
@biy_buildityourself Год назад
We’ve been talking about different ways of welding the heads together, much larger chamfers would have definitely been better. It’s safe to say if we have to re-do the heads again, we’ll likely won’t be doing it the same way.
@arturozarate1752
@arturozarate1752 Год назад
"PREP"
@joebeezy9471
@joebeezy9471 Год назад
This is going in a Corvette? That would be hilarious.
@noob5000000
@noob5000000 Год назад
I don't know if the same is true for every manufacturer, but a member on a Mazda rotary forum pointed out that the OEM wiring doesn't have any solder joints, only crimps where necessary (ie, branching out a ground to multiple wires). I believe crimping is the name of the game in the marine world, too. I like to use quality uninsulated butt connectors (I got a bunch of 3M ones from McMaster years ago) covered with adhesive-lined heat shrink.
@aMpvTRiCKy
@aMpvTRiCKy Год назад
Probably because its quicker in manufacturing to crimp than the solder
@biy_buildityourself
@biy_buildityourself Год назад
Thanks for the info!
@craigfiles7067
@craigfiles7067 Год назад
Easy way to use the spring loaded injector plugs is rotate the injectors so you can fit the plugs
@biy_buildityourself
@biy_buildityourself Год назад
These Bosch injectors have a dual cone spray pattern, so in order to align the cones to each of the runners, they have to be in that orientation. We’d also have to rotate the injector to the point where the connector would hit the fuel rail itself, unfortunately.
@Tlaster1429
@Tlaster1429 Год назад
It looks like you're vested in the k24 coils but you can run the ls d585 coils in the 4v head with a little modification. They do protrude through the coil cover slightly but it is a clean setup. I have been running them on my ms3 controlled 4v for a few years.
@802Garage
@802Garage Год назад
Toyota coils like for the Yaris or Audi coils like for the 2.0T/V10 could have been a good bet too. Their solution works well though.
@darrengolladay9359
@darrengolladay9359 8 месяцев назад
I about died when you polished the chambers AFTER machine work. You need sharp edges to bite into head gaskets properly. You guys have done an awesome job building this engine but have missed some very important details that are small but by no means minor.
@beachboardfan9544
@beachboardfan9544 Год назад
You should be doing a lineman splice before using those solder heat shrink things.
@CapablePimento
@CapablePimento Год назад
I had the same thought. Worst part is the bulk though in a harness situation.
@arturozarate1752
@arturozarate1752 Год назад
@@CapablePimento a big "pregnant" bulge in a harness is unsightly. Staggering connection up and down the line 8s always preferred. Soldering any joint in the application would be bad. In my opinion that is. One can get generous with the flux and careless with the solder feed. This would "wick" solder down the wires back into the insulation. At that point the wire is weak and has a tendency to snap in high stress environments. Non insulated butt splices and a ratcheting crimper work best, and that's fact in wiring racecars or oem approved factory repairs.
@saludahead
@saludahead 4 месяца назад
Natural aluminum is the way to go!
@thatbuelldude189
@thatbuelldude189 Год назад
I really hope this goes in a second gen lightning with a stuck A propper ram srt10 killer
@biy_buildityourself
@biy_buildityourself Год назад
That would be a sweet Lightning!
@evoluke1069
@evoluke1069 5 месяцев назад
If you use a proper ratchet crimp tool with the harbour freight style crimps you won't pull them apart (source: I'm an engineer in the high voltage electricity distribution industry)
@brian400ex1
@brian400ex1 8 месяцев назад
I want to take a disk sander to your intake welds😂
@zacht9447
@zacht9447 Год назад
My parents have that same creeper. You guys go to car shows in the area? I'm in the area and i'd love to see this in person when it's done.
@DesmondBerry316
@DesmondBerry316 Год назад
This needs to go into a superformamce gt40
@ardennielsen3761
@ardennielsen3761 Год назад
28:10 they make that Liquid Copper Block Seal that ya add to radiator fluid, tho the engine might need to be running for it to work.
@That_5.0_Ranger
@That_5.0_Ranger Год назад
Or they could just actually fix the issue instead of bandaging it.
@tedzehnder961
@tedzehnder961 8 месяцев назад
Why is the new oil pick up tube bigger?Maybe, because it has to have more volume.That bushed smaller oil tube might give you problems.
@SideshowBen206
@SideshowBen206 Год назад
With the MAP sensor vacuum line, do you think you will need some sort of crossover tube between each half of the intake manifold, or possibly dual MAP sensors?
@FangOfTruth
@FangOfTruth Год назад
Would be great if Steve Morris made some custom heads for you. But cost would be prohibitive I would think.
@biy_buildityourself
@biy_buildityourself Год назад
We’ll start a go-fund me 😂
@mathieusynnott8915
@mathieusynnott8915 Год назад
He would be interested since its already made it only need to be scanned
@mathieusynnott8915
@mathieusynnott8915 Год назад
But if you ever need to redo new heads look at Steve morris water lines. The deck is sealed on both sides and coolant circulate separated externally from block to cylinder heads.
@Flitzer514
@Flitzer514 Год назад
Run it on methanol. I did notice when you welded the heads together, particularly the deck, that you didn't v it out. This might end up being an issue.
@ryanlove5332
@ryanlove5332 9 месяцев назад
Do you need another o ring or gasket on the oil pickup tube?
@chrisstavro4698
@chrisstavro4698 Год назад
I'd go with high 28X duration on both intake and exhaust, on 118* centers. At least 13mm lift. I'd be disappointed if you didn't hit 800 bhp at 7800 rpm ;)
@rootbeer666
@rootbeer666 Год назад
Go with the crimp that doesn't come apart.
@deleter1823
@deleter1823 Год назад
once things go successfully make a couple more then sell and make that extra cash along with extra smiles
@turnipsucks6416
@turnipsucks6416 6 месяцев назад
Could the voltage drop test of been flawed because you did each crimp in series on the same line?
@heith85
@heith85 Год назад
I still think it's going in that s14 that was in the background.
@biy_buildityourself
@biy_buildityourself Год назад
Don’t hold your breath man lol
@christophercasale7961
@christophercasale7961 Год назад
@@biy_buildityourself It'll fit, especially if you use a tucked radiator! I have a 4.6 32V sitting in my project S14.
@popeyeman69
@popeyeman69 8 месяцев назад
If the two pieces of each head were sealed where they join, how does the water flow through them, isn't one end of each piece sealed? How can the water flow?
@pcwizzy460
@pcwizzy460 Год назад
You guys going to run a cyl head temp sensor?
@tigwelding123
@tigwelding123 Год назад
💯👍💪🙏
@rfor7471
@rfor7471 Год назад
Stay away from boundary. They're known to have issues.
@ArionEquus
@ArionEquus Год назад
Shouldn't be hard to plug those leaks. You can pull a vacuum on the head and suck the epoxy into the leaks.
@biy_buildityourself
@biy_buildityourself Год назад
That’s the plan!
@rolandoroquefl2836
@rolandoroquefl2836 Год назад
Get new head gasket ,run some die in water so when taking off head see what going on
@matthewboggs4639
@matthewboggs4639 Год назад
All of this work in the engine, yall should really consider building a dry sump setup instead of fooling with those gears. The dry sump will perform much better in those higher rpm’s tut you’re trying achieve.
@biy_buildityourself
@biy_buildityourself Год назад
We have been perusing ebay for some used dry sump pumps. It would be great for performance, and to help fit this monster into the vehicle...
@christophercasale7961
@christophercasale7961 Год назад
@@biy_buildityourself If you use NASCAR as a search term it helps!
@matthewboggs4639
@matthewboggs4639 Год назад
Exactly, there’s a lot of retired nascar parts out there that get off loaded for cheap because they can’t use them the next season
@coyotekelly7143
@coyotekelly7143 Год назад
Boundary oil pump gears are known not to be the best.
@biy_buildityourself
@biy_buildityourself Год назад
Their customer service was really good and they came back to us with a response in a very short time. Would be nice for them to have some kind of disclosure on their website of the pump housings their gears don’t fit into, without modifications. We’ll see how they hold up!
@coyotekelly7143
@coyotekelly7143 Год назад
@@biy_buildityourself well that's good. I'm not trying to trash them, but in the coyote world, they are not the preferred choice.
@travismcalister5241
@travismcalister5241 8 месяцев назад
Dorman is not high quality. They are the trash of the aftermarket parts world.
@darrenr67
@darrenr67 Год назад
Injector should have a slight angle of incidence with the airflow. In the current configuration the airflow will be pushing that fuel cone into the area you were initially concerned about. Hopefully a non issue.
@darrenr67
@darrenr67 Год назад
Just get a new set. Don’t try epoxy
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