Triple H's REIGN OF TERROR Or John Cena's 1st WWE Title Run? 

Very good comparison. 2010 Cena was peak bullshit

Exactly

@@chez4prez825 That's understandable.

Damn that was also the summer of punk also in there oh yeah good comparison

Nah Cena 2007-2013 is more like it. Dude in 2007 went over every dam body on the Raw roster from Umaga, Great Khali, Bobby Lashley, etc. And lets not forget 2009 when half of that year was spent with him trading title reigns with Orton and burying everyone in between, I remember a match he had with Swagger that year he treated him like shit in that match.

Ya ... I remember being so excited when Benoit beat Triple-H at Wrestlemania 20 cuz I thought we'd FINALLY get a long break from Triple-H being on top, and then literally like 5 months later HHH beat Orton for the title and I just wanted to barf lol. It's kind of like Brock these days where we get so excited whenever he drops the belt to someone like Rollins or Roman, and then it ends up right back around his waste a couple months later. Just a never-ending cycle

@@BleedBoston Good point, but I'd say an even more accurate comparison to 2002-2005 HHH would be Charlotte Flair lol

R.C. Jonas okay honestly Charlotte might be over pushed, but I don’t think it’s as bad as everyone says it is, and yes I know it’s coming for you can start now.

@@aaronneville1164 No doubt! Charlotte Flair is a prime example of that as well

Don't know which of the of the 2 is worst. Brock is absent most of the time and when he does show up, he's so boring. Now while Charlotte is very good, giving her 10 title reigns in such a short time as well as feeding women like Asuka (who's much better than Charlotte imho) to her twice during said reign is complete overkill. Just my 2 cents...

Smackdown Six was something else man. I remember back then i was in high school and I was embarrassed to be a wrestling fan. Looking back on that era though, i'm really glad I got to see those incredible matches

Smackdown with the whole Smackdown six was the golden age of the show, it was such an exciting time to be a wrestling fan as they were putting on ppv quality matches on a weekly basis and it helped make the blue brand a much better overall show than Raw.

We're you not watching Smackdown from that time? Because really that was the only good thing from that era in WWE

Same, I gave up on Raw for almost 5 years.

spencer2745 I wasn’t. I know there was good stuff from that time period I missed out on. What drove my interest away (I was 16/17 years old) was HHHs mega push and the old guys they were bringing in and pushing to the top, nWo, Flair etc. On top of that my guy Austin was gone. Wrestling wasn’t the cool thing anymore. Sometimes I wished I stuck with it thru the years but I was an angry teenager 🤷🏻‍♂️ I appreciate stuff much more now and probably enjoy wrestling today more than I did as a kid.

Your not alone my friend

Who are the people in your profile pic?

Roman Reigns: I am the longest most hated superman from 2015 to this year. John Cena: am I joke to you?!

@@AllanBakrMHMD Reigns is the Digimon evolution of Super Cena

Austin and rock were gone and so was Foley. The great years are long past them. The time frame for wrestling booming from the late 80s to late 90s is long gone. They've been due for another for awhile but they don't seem to be able to find that next guy.

Plus hhh didnt made stars sure he puts " some people over " but doesnt make them stars or look good

He is just develope his status

It wasn't that bad at all.

Not even cena worst reigns

@@gregoryfuller9736 Cena was the last somewhat likeable superstar WWE had, at least he had a personality.

@Mind of the North Star But what about his first title reign?

Nah he was just crammed down our throats despite not being very talented.

How did the Rock put over Booker T?

jpowers55 booker eliminated him cleanly in the battle royal to become #1 contender back in 2003

2 M T U R B O Rock buried Booker T at Unforgiven 2001

@@2MTURBO Triple h put over Shelton Benjamin

@@tinotica The invasion of angle of 01 didn't really make wcw guys look that great in general

Yep, started the show, ran in for evolution members during their mid card match, then end the show and win. All while he was a heel and losing viewers wwe has never gotten back. Cena is the opposite end of HHH. Extreme Babyface starting and ending the show, losing viewers but keeping little ones cheering for him.

No the catalyst was the death of wcw

Gorilla Glue Expert I can see where you are coming from, but Raw wouldn’t be hemorrhaging viewers as badly if Triple H wasn’t boring fans to tears.

QuizzicalOne completely spot on! And to think that lots of Trips’ fans believe in their hearts that once he takes over Vince he will return WWE to the Promised Land...what a load of manure

Cena was at that time to develope as a champion

@@superlex611 Cena during 05-09 was really hard to stomach but I've always thought the saving grace was there was enough strong talent to help offset a lot of his short comings. With guys like Edge, Batista, HBK, Taker, Punk, Jericho being full-time, it really helped out a lot because a lot of Cena's matches from that time were completely one-sided and seriously did a lot of damage to guys during that time.

@@wrestlingbuff87 how so ? He was not super Cena before he became super Cena as the fans did'nt take it seriously to get behind him

@@superlex611 Makes no sense what you said but just watch Taboo Tuesday 2005 when he does a turnbuckle FU to Angle but beats HBK with a single, regular FU... And then the program he had with Umaga in 2007, you'll understand the frustration with Cena then and why it lead to the Summerfest 2014 squash he had with Brock and why, it was a big deal then.

@@wrestlingbuff87 but in 2014 it was a non torch passing moment match but it is a status that is a bit deminished, good wrestlers with a solid status can have a good matches with Cena but Cena is capable to do it

Since his unnanouced return at the Royal Rumble in 2008 he became stale

@@superlex611 Him returning at the rumble was just too soon. He should have returned after wrestlemania.

Definitely. Imagine Cena vs. Edge and Triple H vs. Mick Foley at WrestleMania 22? Could have been better

Actually yeah, I remember that time after edge lost the title at unforgiven 2006 he was able to make the Canadian crowd boo him and cheer Cena

@@bradpaton3927 He did, it sucks that the crowd turn on people they want.

Me too. That's how good Edge was as a heel

@@bradpaton3927 But where talking about his first title reign, Cena couldn't control the injury, and I don't think you should have title if you're hurt.

@@bradpaton3927 Well what do you think?

Me too

Yes!

PsychTripper 2007 was probably his best year in ring, marketability, and on the mic.

McShetti I don’t know. Maybe marketability to kids. I think 2003/2004 was his prime. Can’t beat the Dr. Of Thuganomics

That is a try to build a legacy

@@cool4jon He managed to pull out a decent match against Khali & a good match against Lashley who's still green at that time Cena's so called reign of terror began around 2010 till 2014

@@g.o.a.t.8168 Yep. It started in summerslam 2010 when he beat the nexus and ended in summerslam 2014 when lesnar squashed him. After 2014, cena began putting over way more stars and his in ring workrate improved greatly.

AJ Daniels rvd could've been champ but he was doomed as hhh first opponent. He wasn't going to drop the title after just received it. They weren't giving the title to Booker because Goldgerb was going to be the next champ. The only time it was purely entertaining was when he would feud with HBK. But the reign of terror wasn't the worst thing in the world

people just love to shit on Cena because admittedly he was (and still is kind of) limited in the ring, whereas you could argue HHH has a much better understanding of ring psychology and how to work in the ring. but at least Cena is charismatic and he knows how to tell a good story. Triple H is by far one of the most boring fucking guys on the mic. I remember seeing an interview where Road Dogg said HHH owned Rock on the mic. Lol, Road Dogg should really lay off the drugs

Cena during 2005-06 was an embarrassment in the ring.

@@ChrisWolff2013 Not really

@@lancethefilmguy9392 He sucked. Even JR had difficulty defending Cena at points.

@@ChrisWolff2013 Yet he does now

To be fair, 2009 wasn't as bad as 2012. I have to disagree with Zane on that

Cena was a burial machine starting in 05.

@@starbreaker269 that was the online "smart" folks complaining. I didn't run into anyone who complained in the real world. Plus no one had it for super long stretches. Austin's first run lasted 4 months. He was the hottest thing going. Kofi had a longer run than that. Rock never had it for a super long time.

@@kamfisher1714 Hogan did bury a lot of guys. Vince always wanted a babyface champ. It's a shame none of the other great performers got a run with the title.

@@starbreaker269 The difference is the majority of ppl hated Cena and hhh burying talent. I could care less about a select few online in 2000.

@@starbreaker269 Yeah he was over til about 06.

Too bad he was a disgrace in the ring.

@@ChrisWolff2013 Not really my friend

That's the whole point of his title reign. There's no such thing as "go away" heat, and you're supposed to hate the chicken-shit heel champion and beg to see the next big babyface to conquer him, which is exactly what you did. His matches with the likes of Shawn Michaels, Batista, that match with Ric Flair on the Raw the night he won his first World Heavyweight Championship, and even Booker T were actually better than you remember, and babyface triumphs would have never been as meaningful if weren't for great heels like Triple H. As for buisness/ratings, that's a combination of multiple things having to do with Vince McMahon, not Triple H. It's a nature of the business that top guys are going to get all the titles, accolades, and spotlights for years to come, and if you can't accept that, don't watch the product. How else are we supposed to create the next Hogan/Austin if fans always keep rejecting the top guys because they are "being shoved down our throat". I honestly believe that Austin /Hogan would not be as popular as they are if they were booked how they were today with how fans are. Overall, Triple is the 2nd best World Heavyweight Champion of all time, and yes sometimes he went over people he shouldn't have like Goldberg, which BTW he put a lot of people over and then he would get the title around two months later, but that is simply how the business works. Some people win, and some people lose, and when somebody like heel Triple H wins all the time, it makes heroes who go over Triple H that much more satisfying. Anyways, sorry for the long comment, but my point still stands. A lot of the greatest and most memorable moments from the World Heavyweight Championship come from Triple H's reigns, and it's bullshit for people to say he was champion for way too long. Quality over quantity people!

But why it is a big issue since Cena was drafted too Raw ?

alex kanyima it was a big issue because like I stated before, he was shoved down our throats too much despite being over AF. Too much of something gets tiresome and old quick. Not everybody was pleased on John Cena being the sole guy at the top, it lasted to fucking long too

That’s because he’s an antihero

The Warrior well I would say now with his work in nxt and the pc he isn’t an egomaniac anymore...

And Don't Charlotte Flair's reign of terror as well...

@Jeff Pryce I prefer her instead of Charlotte to be perfectly honest.

@Jeff Pryce So you would rather have someone who isn't the most charismatic girl, has a history of reckless endangerment in the ring, does not have that much of an emotional connection with the WWE Universe and pushed based on her last name instead of a woman who is the opposite of that?

@@ChrisWolff2013 Bliss wasn't as bad as Charlotte

Sean Cone damn I watched smack down more because of him and the ratings from 02-04 proved that too at school everyone was talking about smack down raw was an afterthought.

Jeff Pryce I agree with pretty much everything that you said. I am just saying that so me personally in the beginning it hurt how I look at him as a top guy. It also hurt the way that I look at John as far as the entire super Cena thing. I mean I eventually was able to look at Edge as the top guy that he is. I just know that I would have gotten there a lot sooner if they treated his title rain in the beginning more legit and not a blink and you missed it situation that they joked about on TV afterwards.

It depends on where WWE was in the United States. Example: if they were at Mississippi, Cena was overwhelming cheered. However if they were at New York, Cena would be tremendously booed.

2005 ending of evolution was great.

Me too.

Imagine what could have been had he turn heel on Smackdown? 🤔😔

Of course he put him over. They were good friends.

He also put over Shelton Benjamin a few times back in 2004 when Shelton was traded to Raw.

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Absolutely

I do not agree at all... I mean Triple H feud with Michaels, Booker T, RVD, Kane, Orton... Sure, he had feuds with Goldberg, Nash and Steiner, but I don't really think there is a huge difference between the guys that feud with Cena and Triple H

@@ramdomdude7257 But Cena didn't make his opponents look like janronies.

@@TheeKingRayzor That's true, but my point was that the opponents of Cena and Triple H were good .... But the problem with Triple H was.... The fact that he buried them without any mercy

@@ramdomdude7257 Well I think Cena at the time, had a better story about a rookie champion. Triple H, on the hand, had ran out of steam, and could never come to terms that fans would never respect him as the guy.

LaToya Wrestleology I hated that super cena shit he use to do. No selling and if he lost there was always an excuse

Then he brought it back down to shit in 2010-2013.

@@ChrisWolff2013 I'll give you the 2010s because that was the birth of Super Cena.

Treyvon Williams triple h but I’m not a fan of both

@@MightyNick100 What about Brock Lesnar?

As a draw? Cena easily but as an in-worker that's debatable.

But didn't draw.....

@@jordanhutton5787 he was the only draw as a heel remember brock left and kurt was sidelined .

@@seeyalaterbrandflakes4835 in context what you said is definitely true... But Triple h as the very top guy whether face or heel was not good for business though they had no other alternative

Brock definitely left alot of collateral damage behind him when he left

Benoit may not have been a draw, but HHH was even worse of a draw since people were so damm sick of him at that point. Orton winning the championship was when fans finally started becoming alive again, but then HHH beat him back for the champion right away.

@Jeff Pryce Triple H was actually "killing" Raw back then. His 10 to 20 minutes opening lame ass boring promo every week was just a tip of the iceberg though.

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He lost a lot in 08

@@lancethefilmguy9392 He won the RR in 08. At NWO, he won the match, not the title. At WM, he ate the pin, but was protected because it was a triple threat match. At Backlash, that was another multi person match that made him look good. Judgement Day he beat JBL. ONS he beat JBL again. NOC he lost one on one to HHH. That's his first 1-on-1 loss to someone that year. Then they made an excuse on commentary that HHH beat Cena who suffered a torn pec, devaluing HHH's credible 1 on 1 victory vs him. JBL beat him at the Bash. But then he got up after the finish, taking away JBL's heat and did his finish on him post match. Batista beat him at Summerslam. So that's 2 legitimate one on one losses. He beat JBL 2/3 times, so he won the feud. He broke his neck after that. Comes back and beats Jericho at Survivor Series despite Jericho hitting his stride in 08 as a top heel champ. Beats Jericho again at the very next PPV, Armageddon. Cena literally got a win on the first and last ppv of 08.

@@Speedyreedy1218 Dang you sure did your research son lol

@@lancethefilmguy9392 I recently watched all the 08 PPVs a few months ago and had fresh memory.

Wow! Those 3 reasons are the same reason I stopped watching WWE till Cm Punks pipe bomb.